[buffoon]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Jacob Bronowski writes:
Liberals will never understand. Bronowski was just another egotistical, liberal twit who, when forced to confront the fact that he was utterly wrong about how prosperity benefits the poor FAR, FAR more than Marxist, Socialism, carries on picking dandilions, skipping through the field, sated by his own delusional, envious, self-loathing.

I am not surprised that xico uses one of his quotes in his signature. How appropriate.

Jacob Bronowski writes:

Is Chuck Braman another of those peculiarly inexplicable pseudonyms of Chanowski?

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by buffoon

Is Chuck Braman another of those peculiarly inexplicable pseudonyms of Chanowski?

I skipped through Braman's article, but if you look close enough, Braman uses Bronowski to refute Marx.

Here is the blog site for Braman.....http://chuckbraman.blogspot.com/

[Stoner]

Reading comprehension.........no wonder some people hate science

[buffoon]

Originally Posted by Stoner

I skipped through Braman's article, but if you look close enough, Braman uses Bronowski to refute Marx.

Here is the blog site for Braman.....http://chuckbraman.blogspot.com/

Thanks, I had already been there. Accusing Bronowski of being a Marxist advocate had me wondering but Braman showed innocent.

But I guess for LAN nothing is impossible.

[buffoon]

Originally Posted by iltos

if LAN responds,...............

I reckon it'll be a while. Last I heard he's gone up to his room to have a good cry into his pillow


(...followed by repeating impacting of cranium upon windowsill)

[SlackAli]

Is it magic mushroom season in whatever dank and paranoid community LAN inhabits? Not only has he completely misread the meaning of the Bronowski quote in the article in which it is cited, but then compounds the error with a ridiculous rant....

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Liberals will never understand.
Bronowski was just another egotistical, liberal twit who, when forced to confront the fact that he was utterly wrong about how prosperity benefits the poor FAR, FAR more than Marxist, Socialism, carries on picking dandilions, skipping through the field, sated by his own delusional, envious, self-loathing.

Offensive, but funny for its lack of comprehension. To imply that Bronowski was a Marxist makes about as much sense as saying Richard Dawkins is really advocating religion.

Where do you find these articles LAN? Do you put "morons guide to Marxism" into google, and choose to quote from the most badly written? The point to the Braman article, if there is one, is not to discuss Marx's epistemology or economics (if that had been the case he wouldn't have chosen the Communist Manifesto), but to trot out the tired causal lineage from Marx to Stalin et al. Christians get annoyed when rationalists state that their "theory" has resulted in the deaths of untold numbers, so why do we have to endure the sins of subsequent generations of Marxists being visited on Marx himself?

[iltos]

gotta butt in here
while i agree that LAN is way off base, in fairness to him, the stuff i lifted to start this thread was apparently doomed from the start
it's from a thread in random that LAN wandered into by mistake

Originally Posted by LAN

Apparently, I took a wrong turn down some CD link to get into here.

imo, the whole "Bronowsky is a twit" thing was meant mostly as a club to beat over xico's head
LAN, like brett, likes to play provocateur
but, also like brett, he's impressively capable sometimes of doing it without much consideration for MEANING

just wanted to set things straight

[iltos]

Originally Posted by SlackAli

Where do you find these articles LAN? Do you put "morons guide to Marxism" into google, and choose to quote from the most badly written?

this struck my funny bone ....probably because i used to own a vw

The point to the Braman article, if there is one, is not to discuss Marx's epistemology or economics (if that had been the case he wouldn't have chosen the Communist Manifesto), but to trot out the tired causal lineage from Marx to Stalin et al. Christians get annoyed when rationalists state that their "theory" has resulted in the deaths of untold numbers, so why do we have to endure the sins of subsequent generations of Marxists being visited on Marx himself?

and this makes me feel really ignorant

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by iltos

only Bronowski could take Mozart's struggle against the status quo of 18th century French aristocracy to produce "the marriage of figaro" and relate it's sarcasm to the discontent that led to the french revolution, and then go on to point out how that same discontent was evident in people who led the way through scientific/industrial revolution, and the social dreams carried to america....realized in the Declaration of Independance, and put into practice by the Constitution

it is that discontent against "authority" (including the authority of "instinct" ) which has driven us as a species: it is THE point of the entire series, imo


how anybody can call this discontent "marxist" is beyond me

Methinks LAN got mixed quotes and was led astray on this one either by whoever mixed the quotes for him or by his own mind.

While I haven't studied Bronowski, I can tell from the actual quotes that he considered Marx and marxism as a very flawed philosophy in complete disharmony with human nature. I will check out those videos when I have a chance.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by buffoon

Is Chuck Braman another of those peculiarly inexplicable pseudonyms of Chanowski?

amazing how much milage you can get out looking at somebody's signature, ain't it?
hijack one thread...start two more

[iltos]

Originally Posted by TooBad

Methinks LAN got mixed quotes and was led astray on this one either by whoever mixed the quotes for him or by his own mind.

definitely mixed his quotes
LAN hasn't seen that post of mine you quoted.....it was just me, musing as i was listening to the vid earlier

[buffoon]

Originally Posted by iltos

amazing how much milage you can get out looking at somebody's signature, ain't it?
hijack one thread...start two more

To tell the truth I never looked at the signature before this. Ever since forum regulations have precluded them from being font size 36, 5 to 10 lines and garish pink my optical sensors seem incapable of "solution".

Thankfully.


Wonder if anyone ever reads mine, I haven't in a long time.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by buffoon

To tell the truth I never looked at the signature before this. Ever since forum regulations have precluded them from being font size 36, 5 to 10 lines and garish pink my optical sensors seem incapable of "solution".

Thankfully.


Wonder if anyone ever reads mine, I haven't in a long time.

xico's caught my eye, first, because it was bold and then because it was about education

[LANMaster]

What'd I miss?

[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

What'd I miss?

everything
as usual