[JohnWill]

So much for the promise not to ration health care: http://www.reuters.com/article/healt...5AF5OS20091116

[ekim68]

Yep, looks the government is looking a lot like private insurance companies..At times it seems like they'll make conditions at the drop of the hat. And the article spoke of them saving money on that ..And:

Q&A: The new mammogram recommendations

Here

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Yep, looks the government is looking a lot like private insurance companies..At times it seems like they'll make conditions at the drop of the hat. And the article spoke of them saving money on that ..And:

Q&A: The new mammogram recommendations

Here

These bills going around in Congress are not reform bills, they simply blow up the current system and replace it with a similar system where the government in the form of bureaucrats control the decisions as to what is covered and how much they will pay for it. It doesn't fix anything, just changes who makes the decisions with no recourse to appeal the decisions.

If you want to fix health insurance, as opposed to healthcare, you need to remove the third party payer (insurance or government) from the equation for all but catastophic cases. The free market works remarkably well when it comes to elective surgeries like Lasic and cosmetic surgeries as there is competition and the patient has to pay and decides on the procedure and the doctor based on reputation and price. If most healthcare were performed in this manner, like it was years ago, then the cost of healthcare would go down. Couple that with loser pays in lawsuits, and the cost of malpractice insurance goes down and the cost to the doctors goes down. Nothing in the current bills do anything to reduce costs, it only decides not to pay those costs and that results in costs elsewhere such as in lives.

[JohnWill]

Actually, nothing in the bills decides who pays the costs, that is a constant! In case you don't get it, YOU the taxpayer pay the costs, just as it's always been for a government program!

[ekim68]

More on this:

Despite new recommendations that women start breast screening at 50 rather than 40, many doctors said Tuesday that they were simply not ready to make such a drastic change.

“It’s kind of hard to suggest that we should stop examining our patients and screening them,” said Dr. Annekathryn Goodman, director of the fellowship program in gynecological oncology at Massachusetts General Hospital. “I would be cautious about changing a practice that seems to work.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/he...s.html?_r=1&hp

[JohnWill]

Yep, it seems only the Fed's believe this wacky idea.

[Knotbored]

I hate to find humor in this but perhaps Viagra should be outlawed since indications are so many "false positive" readings can cause unnecessary anxiety.
sorry about that-its either joke or cry about this administration

[poochee]

The latest....

Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. (D-N.J.) announced Tuesday that his House health subcommittee will hold hearings on the mammogram issue next month. Other lawmakers from both parties suggested that the task force had been swayed by insurance companies that stand to save money if fewer screenings are performed.

"We can't allow the insurance industry to continue to drive health-care decisions," said Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), who said earlier this year that she had undergone treatment for breast cancer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...src=newsletter

[JohnWill]

Well, I was pretty sure that the backlash at this time in the health care debate would result in pretty quick action from the folks trying to ram this health care bill down our throats.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by JohnWill

Well, I was pretty sure that the backlash at this time in the health care debate would result in pretty quick action from the folks trying to ram this health care bill down our throats.

I also suspect that if we weren't having the healthcare debate, this would have slid by without as much notice and may have taken effect.

But it happened at the right time for it to be corrected.

[Noyb]

Let’s all start a Rumor Campaign that Obama’s Plan will…
“Pull the plug on Grandma”, “Ration Medical Care”, “Choose our Doctors for us”, and Obama is trying take over our government ..
So we can stop him from trying to fix something that’s broke .. Like he promised ..

So we can still have our dysfunctional government …
That’s run by the Bought, Privileged and Rich … And only serves the Privileged and Rich.

I see nothing in that Article other than “speculation” that it MAY have something to do with reforming Health care.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Noyb

Let’s all start a Rumor Campaign that Obama’s Plan will…
“Pull the plug on Grandma”, “Ration Medical Care”, “Choose our Doctors for us”, and Obama is trying take over our government ..
So we can stop him from trying to fix something that’s broke .. Like he promised ..

So we can still have our dysfunctional government …
That’s run by the Bought, Privileged and Rich … And only serves the Privileged and Rich.

I see nothing in that Article other than “speculation” that it MAY have something to do with reforming Health care.

Same here, but knew it would grow into something else.

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by Noyb

Let’s all start a Rumor Campaign that Obama’s Plan will…
“Pull the plug on Grandma”, “Ration Medical Care”, “Choose our Doctors for us”, and Obama is trying take over our government ..
So we can stop him from trying to fix something that’s broke .. Like he promised ..

So we can still have our dysfunctional government …
That’s run by the Bought, Privileged and Rich … And only serves the Privileged and Rich.

I see nothing in that Article other than “speculation” that it MAY have something to do with reforming Health care.

Please keep you head in the sand, except for pulling out to drink more koolaid! 2,000 pages of BS!!!

[Noyb]

My wife is disabled .. And it's in her records that she may need back surgery soon.
Currently, her prescriptions run about $900/mth.

And we just lost my GM Retirement Health Coverage .. Think we can get coverage now ??
Who's Head is in the sand ???

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Noyb

My wife is disabled .. And it's in her records that she may need back surgery soon.
Currently, her prescriptions run about $900/mth.

And we just lost my GM Retirement Health Coverage .. Think we can get coverage now ??
Who's Head is in the sand ???

Sorry to hear that.

I thank God I am well covered and my heart goes out to those who aren't.