[Wino]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

..........................................Dems are the ones staunchly opposed to term limits.

Opinion? Or do you have a link? I believe you'll find all political parties in DC are against term limits. I can't count the number of times over the years that a Rep on Sen have stated they will run no more than twice and then step down, only to renege on that promise when the time comes.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

You're going against your own party on that one.

Oh my, did I get out of the box you have placed me in?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Wino

Opinion? Or do you have a link? I believe you'll find all political parties in DC are against term limits. I can't count the number of times over the years that a Rep on Sen have stated they will run no more than twice and then step down, only to renege on that promise when the time comes.

If you look back at my post, I provided links.

I agree with you on the renegged promises. That is one reason why I believe term limits could only serve for the good of the country.

[Wino]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

If you look back at my post, I provided links.

I agree with you on the renegged promises. That is one reason why I believe term limits could only serve for the good of the country.

There were no links when I quoted you. You have to edit faster next time.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Wino

There were no links when I quoted you. You have to edit faster next time.

First of all, you only partially quoted me.

Secondly, I did not edit my post.

[Wino]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

First of all, you only partially quoted me.

Secondly, I did not edit my post.

I deleted one sentence and a partial of the second. That's all that was there when I quoted your post. Whether you belive it or not is irrelevant.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Wino

I deleted one sentence and a partial of the second. That's all that was there when I quoted your post. Whether you belive it or not is irrelevant.

Look at my post. I did not edit my post.

Now, there is a 1 minute grace before the "edited" line shows up (even for mods) so it is possible that I edited within 1 minute. But I don't remember doing that. Alzheimer's perhaps.

But who cares about that? As you can see there is a link in my post.
Care to debate the facts? Or do you wish to continue the typical leftist misdirection?

[Wino]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Look at my post. I did not edit my post.

Now, there is a 1 minute grace before the "edited" line shows up (even for mods) so it is possible that I edited within 1 minute. But I don't remember doing that. Alzheimer's perhaps.

But who cares about that? As you can see there is a link in my post.
Care to debate the facts? Or do you wish to continue the typical leftist misdirection?

I have no idea what we are discussing as I don't read your posts.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Wino

I have no idea what we are discussing as I don't read your posts.

Your cop out is no surprise. What a great argument against the legalization of marijuana.

The discussion was about term limits, who supports them, and who opposes them.

Naturally Democrats overwhelminly oppose term limits, though there are also a few Republicans who also need to be rode out of town on this issue as well.

Careful, wino, those seeds in your toke bowl pop once in a while. You should try wearing safety glasses to protect your squinty bloodshot eyes.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Your cop out is no surprise. What a great argument against the legalization of marijuana.

The discussion was about term limits, who supports them, and who opposes them.

Naturally Democrats overwhelminly oppose term limits, though there are also a few Republicans who also need to be rode out of town on this issue as well.

Careful, wino, those seeds in your toke bowl pop once in a while. You should try wearing safety glasses to protect your squinty bloodshot eyes.

ya know, i used to think that term limits was a good idea: like most folks, i feel like congress is a cush job, and those who get elected tend to play the game of keeping it, rather that governing....

but i've come around to wacor's pov on this.....if the electorate wants the same clowns around for decades, because they're getting a good share of the pork, or they like their rep's rhetoric, or he/she kissed their baby 25 years ago, then the damn is already too riddled with the cracks of our undoing, and terms limits is just one pointless finger trying to force some thoughtfulness into the process.

[LANMaster]

I used to think that way too, iltos, for the same reasons, including the freedom of the people to elect and re-elect whom they want.

But the day after innauguration day has become the campaign for re-election kickoff day. BOTH PARTIES!

I say that after a single re-election, the person should have to sit out an entire term before they can run again. So I oppose a "serve and then you're out forever" type of thing. I also oppose a 6 year Senate term, but I am not willing to change the Constitution because too much other stuff would be changed if we were to open that can of worms.

So I am back to supporting term limits for the House AND Senate. There's too many lifetimers in there. Few of them have had to gain employment in the private sector for almost all of their adult lives. Frankly they're not only out of touch with America, they are out of touch with reality.

When the term is up, they should be off the ballot, unable to run for a single full term. At which time they should not be allowed to compete for any governmental position if they wish to run again.

I hate to say that the electorate is simply too damn stupid, but look who was elected President.

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

I used to think that way too, iltos, for the same reasons, including the freedom of the people to elect and re-elect whom they want.

But the day after innauguration day has become the campaign for re-election kickoff day. BOTH PARTIES!

I say that after a single re-election, the person should have to sit out an entire term before they can run again. So I oppose a "serve and then you're out forever" type of thing. I also oppose a 6 year Senate term, but I am not willing to change the Constitution because too much other stuff would be changed if we were to open that can of worms.

So I am back to supporting term limits for the House AND Senate. There's too many lifetimers in there. Few of them have had to gain employment in the private sector for almost all of their adult lives. Frankly they're not only out of touch with America, they are out of touch with reality.

When the term is up, they should be off the ballot, unable to run for a single full term. At which time they should not be allowed to compete for any governmental position if they wish to run again.

I hate to say that the electorate is simply too damn stupid, but look who was elected President.

I agree with the idea of consecutive term limits vs permanent limits with the caveat that former CongressCritters are barred from any form of lobbying for at least 5 years after they leave Congress. Try doing something constructive for a change!

[LANMaster]

YES!!! And make is something in the Private Sector - totally removed from government.