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21-Nov-2009, 12:51 AM #121
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Good thought, as usual....Have you been involved with a court case with either witnesses or defendants that have a notoriety about them? And, do you have to take the side door to avoid the masses?
Yes and had to wear a bulletproof vest but you'll never know what case.
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21-Nov-2009, 12:58 AM #122
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Yes and had to wear a bulletproof vest but you'll never know what case.
I actually don't want to know the case, but I think it's cool, in a way, to wear a bulletproof vest.. I always wanted one of those..
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21-Nov-2009, 03:57 AM #123
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I actually don't want to know the case, but I think it's cool, in a way, to wear a bulletproof vest.. I always wanted one of those..
The "Kevlar" ones of today are better in that they're lighter in weight. Still bloody uncomfortable though. Best to behave in such a way as to not attract bullets.

But for lawyers they are of course standard apparel
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I would remind you that this occurred and was ordered by one of the most, if not the most, liberal President this country has had (up till now).
Does that sound a bit like "see, the libs do it too" apologetism?

They undoubtedly do and did and that seems to me to support my point of the uselessness of party bashing in instances like this. This constant "it was all Bush's fault" thing isn't helpful at all and does nothing towards resolving.

Not to get too semantic about it but FDR actually didn't order the internments, he authorized them and left it up to local military commanders to "exclude" whatever people they designated from "zones of their (the military's) choosing".

My original statement of not a single Nisei having been interned on Hawaii also requires correction. Between 1200 and 1800 actually were interned there BUT of a total number of +150,000 which constituted about a third of the Hawaiian population. The rest were left free to live as before whereas California, Oregon and Washington and were virtually "cleaned" of Issei and Nisei.

Also noteworthy that it was under a Republican president that apologies were finally extended and reparations paid to the surviving internees. More than 40 years later but better late than never.
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Germany would be fine it appears..to further add it would also make a better world statement to let him be tried in another country...as there wouldnt be opinion of bias in the event there were a conviction
Well anyone who would want to accuse the US (or NYC) of bias in case of a conviction would be nuts anyway so should be rightfully disregarded.

As far as the jihadists out there are concerned they'll react with hate no matter where the trial is held.
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Well thats because you are trying to learn the entire language
Naw, I know when I'm licked and I knew it there early on.
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21-Nov-2009, 10:07 AM #127
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I would remind you that this occurred and was ordered by one of the most, if not the most, liberal President this country has had (up till now).
yes and I try my best not to think about it . Thanks for reminding me .
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21-Nov-2009, 11:33 AM #128
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I actually don't want to know the case, but I think it's cool, in a way, to wear a bulletproof vest.. I always wanted one of those..
I was joking about the vest. . In my prior legal life when I did criminal work I had two or three local high profile cases but nothing that would have a made national news nor did I represent someone who was alleged to have murder numerous people.

On the other had I do have high profile civil cases but they are only about money.
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I actually don't want to know the case, but I think it's cool, in a way, to wear a bulletproof vest.. I always wanted one of those..
Not cool at all .
I have not worn one , but wished I had one in past . Its terrible to be under that kind of threat . When it happens , it comes to your home , your family , and too many things to deal with --more than a simple vest can cure .
Walk to car worrying -- don't stand in front of windows in your own home -- look at every person , everything not right -- worry all day and night about family members . Dream about it . Thats when you wear a vest if you have one , and it is not cool at all.
I have not worn vest , but have been under threat and shot at , its a nightmare .
The worst is --you have no idea from where it will come , and even worse --is worry about loved ones--family . You can't dress family in vests . Dirty god forsaken business and not fun at all.
Its not like movies , its takes years off your life when you have people that want to harm or kill you. I am not coward , but I know the stress can ruin someones life. I was afraid , -even if threat never actually happens . Some of my life was miserable --extremely miserable .
My son wears one --he is a cop --but it safety policy , not because someone wants him personally-- a different deal . >f
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21-Nov-2009, 10:47 PM #131
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I was joking about the vest. . In my prior legal life when I did criminal work I had two or three local high profile cases but nothing that would have a made national news nor did I represent someone who was alleged to have murder numerous people.

On the other had I do have high profile civil cases but they are only about money.
Do you have a kevlar briefcase whiteboy ??? Protect those victims checks you pack in there ?.
You lawyers drive me nuts -- all I ever say is -OK -OK -OK _OK not knowing what the hell is going on . Slicks with suits.
If I had my choice , you guys would be in camps -- except that nothing would ever work without you SOB's.
You must have figured out that out at young age -- we can't get rid of you , and the money is good . Damn you whiteboy ! >f
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Now that is the sign of good citizens !.------when they don't mind being robbed of their property and put in camps . All Americans should have that attitude .be willing to go to camp with a smile ==Patriotic !
Amazing . >f
I am sure they werent happy about it at the time,but did get over it quickly afterwards
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22-Nov-2009, 01:29 AM #133
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All he needs is one...I dont see why the libs are supporting this.
Especially knowing all the technicalities involved.
Who knows how many profiling laws will be written because of this
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He didn't have any jets in his hands when he had the others fly into the buildings.....sense any danger there?
Well said
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22-Nov-2009, 01:33 AM #135
Have you ever been on a jury Brett?
 

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