[pyritechips]

I think Obama delivered what the Democrats wanted. Why was he voted in? Mulder said because people wanted "change" after the unpopularity of the Bush years. Obama's job wasn't to fix the economy or return America to former glory on the world stage. He is merely a stand-in, with the party knowing the vote would go Democrat they had to have somebody to throw to the wolves. No president - or should I say, no candidate with the presidential mettle - was available to fix what was broke so the public would be dissatisfied with the Democrat president and vote him out after 4 years. He fixed nothing, took the heat and will be replaced with a Republican president, whom the Democrats are banking on to also fill the "Interregnum". Unless he turns out to be the next presidential rock star that whips up some miracle cures he will be replaced in the following election by the well groomed Mrs. H. Clinton.

Remember, you heard this Machiavellian plot here first.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

I think Obama delivered what the Democrats wanted. Why was he voted in? Mulder said because people wanted "change" after the unpopularity of the Bush years. Obama's job wasn't to fix the economy or return America to former glory on the world stage. He is merely a stand-in, with the party knowing the vote would go Democrat they had to have somebody to throw to the wolves. No president - or should I say, no candidate with the presidential mettle - was available to fix what was broke so the public would be dissatisfied with the Democrat president and vote him out after 4 years. He fixed nothing, took the heat and will be replaced with a Republican president, whom the Democrats are banking on to also fill the "Interregnum". Unless he turns out to be the next presidential rock star that whips up some miracle cures he will be replaced in the following election by the well groomed Mrs. H. Clinton.

Remember, you heard this Machiavellian plot here first.

I think Obama delivered what the Democrats wanted.

Replace 'Democrats' with 'the voters' and the last Congressional election shows otherwise.

people wanted "change"

People responded to a worthless undefined sound bite that Obama campaigned on.

Obama's job wasn't to fix the economy

It's to implement conditions conducive to repairing the economy . Not what we see today in out of control rising Federal debt

He is merely a stand-in

I'll read that as a rubber stamp for socialism.

No president - or should I say, no candidate with the presidential mettle - was available to fix what was broke

I think that's correct. And that would mean any fool could fill his shoes.
Perhaps his shoes, but not the job.
His socialist agenda has been counter to recovery.
This is the issue....he leads to economic destruction.
Now your quote can be restated to search for a non destructive candidate and the answer becomes a different value.

He fixed nothing, took the heat and will be replaced with a Republican president,

Obama is doing economic damage and will likely be replaced by a Republican.

he will be replaced in the following election by the well groomed Mrs. H. Clinton.

Either way, I hope the plastic surgery goes well for her.

[Littlefield]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Either way, I hope the plastic surgery goes well for her.

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[aka Brett]

Originally Posted by wowzer

Another thread to bash Obummer. How refreshing.

I can't seem to find any similar.

Well its open to all..so far no one has defended him...perhaps the intoxication has wore off and they are now dealing with the reality of it...they usually get pretty emotional while viewing anything that isnt positive about the guy..the other possibility is they are just copy and pasting away in CE and havent had a chance yet to see the thread in the debate forum....I am leaning towards the latter

[aka Brett]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Just a thought for another choice in the poll

'Has Obama delivered ? '

new choice:

"Yes, we're sinking in debt "

It will be on the next poll

[aka Brett]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

That's what I debated with friends/co-workers. My question was "why" are you voting for Obama? What EXACTLY are you expecting? It is astonishing what people tell you. I was dumbfounded by the ignorance or I guess in some cases apathy because some of these people were/are pretty intelligent. They just wanted "change" without realizing what "change" they were going to get. The only intelligent response I ever heard from anyone offered their reason for voting for Obama was from Bastiat who said that he would do so much damage to the Democrats party, that ultimately it would be a positive overall. And sure enough, the last election showed just how much he damaged the party. My only concern (and I think Bastiat might share it) is that the damage came too soon! He was so partisan and focused so much on pushing his agenda while ignoring the things that were important to people that Republicans were swept in too quickly. They now have the dilemma of trying to fix things, but not too quickly because if things are looking significantly better in 2012, Obama will get re-elected.

Agreed..it is a concern
Obama got most of his dirty work out of the way early..appointing cheats etc...good move on his part..the dust settled on the early part of his presidency .
I fear that if he does something good during the last few months of his present term he will win again.
People really are that naive

[wowzer]

Originally Posted by aka Brett

Well its open to all..so far no one has defended him...perhaps the intoxication has wore off and they are now dealing with the reality of it...they usually get pretty emotional while viewing anything that isnt positive about the guy..the other possibility is they are just copy and pasting away in CE and havent had a chance yet to see the thread in the debate forum....I am leaning towards the latter

your veil is getting pretty thin.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by wowzer

your veil is getting pretty thin.

Is that a personal attack?....Oh shock and horrors...................

[Littlefield]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Is that a personal attack?....Oh shock and horrors...................

Perhaps a muted insult

[buffoon]

Originally Posted by aka Brett

Well its open to all..so far no one has defended him...perhaps the intoxication has wore off and they are now dealing with the reality of it...they usually get pretty emotional while viewing anything that isnt positive about the guy..the other possibility is they are just copy and pasting away in CE and havent had a chance yet to see the thread in the debate forum....I am leaning towards the latter

They probably read a "real" poll and decided that it'll suffice.




here

It's a bit old (beginning of last month). Had more participants than yours, though.

[wowzer]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Is that a personal attack?....Oh shock and horrors...................

you still a bad man, no matter what anyone says.

[wowzer]

Originally Posted by buffoon

They probably read a "real" poll and decided that it'll suffice.




here

It's a bit old (beginning of last month). Had more participants than yours, though.

were you expecting anything else.

[aka Brett]

Originally Posted by buffoon

They probably read a "real" poll and decided that it'll suffice.




here

It's a bit old (beginning of last month). Had more participants than yours, though.

Thanks buff
Those numbers show a dissatisfaction of Obama...perhaps after praising Obama so long then reading some facts..they have awakened

Note that all areas of disapproval are items discussed during campaign.{I do hope that was your intention}

Thanks

[buffoon]

my intention was to (also) outline the last four items in the above graph. But especially the last one. I heard a lot during the campaign and believed very little. That doesn't really say much since I never much believe anybody, especially during campaign time.

[aka Brett]

Originally Posted by wowzer

your veil is getting pretty thin.

Bummer
Its not to hide me, but to prevent me from having to look at the ones without the capacity of deductive reasoning