[aka Brett]

Originally Posted by SmuckersLaFart

An easy way to solve that problem is end globalization / crony-capitalism and get back to basics. National pride somewhat isolationist tough on principles. We need to slow down... All this industrial weight being thrown around unwisely because of the petrol dollar, it's facilitating breed like rabbits mentality. I think we should stop advertising the false illusion of American dream, it's constantly regurgitated in all forms of media including schools and it's not just the American dream anymore if you know what I mean. Everyone is in this together...Environmental conditions for breeding are sprouting all over the world and it's no surprise that gnat flies lay their maggots in poo.

How does that address ekim68s post regarding having to deal with over population?.
We actually have far less children that we used to in recent years.
Simple math shows us the problem
Joe and sally have 2.2 kids
Those 2.2 kids have 2.2 kid
Those 2.2 kids have 2.2 kids
As we can see we replace life much faster than what it dies as we are at 10.648 and started with 2

Perhaps send them to Israel..off to the desert where no one cares?

[ekim68]

Oh Brett, you of confused threads........

[aka Brett]

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[pyritechips]

Originally Posted by aka Brett

Look at the last 50 to 100 years of wars.
Things have changed now....A firearm isn't the main threat.
With all the nations on the way to joining the nuclear club....and in very unstable areas..you are only fooling yourself with wishful thinking Jim.If that isnt enough..think how many more will be unstable in the future.
Still not enough?......The wrong person having access.
Accidents can also happen as well.
Still not enough?
Doesnt even need to be a nuke..look at what Japan suffered because of an earthquake.

With that said....something is going happen.

With that aside...we have a fast growing population of people...more food will be needed...more oil..good water will become scarce.

You know they say..if you wash your car it will rain,thus a waste of time.
I washed a car the other day..then it rained...THE CAR WAS CLEAN UNTIL IT RAINED what fell out of that sky I have no idea
White with a hint of tan looking substance..We can be assured wasnt something mother nature had in the original plan.

Thing is no one wants to do anything...we are harming the planet
The world is in conflictUntil we fix those two issues we are doomed

Well, as Billy Joel sang "You may be right, but you may be wrong." I hope you are wrong. And the world will remain in conflict until we stop bombing the hell out of each other.

[aka Brett]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

Well, as Billy Joel sang "You may be right, but you may be wrong." I hope you are wrong. And the world will remain in conflict until we stop bombing the hell out of each other.

Sadly true,
Wars have changed....no longer for the purpose of acquiring land and has shifted to political dominance..with such motives no end is in sight

[Drabdr]

What a truly interesting thread topic...

Music and Art:

Music:

I think people will being to "find" themselves. There will be return to the basics, which will include bluegrass, gospel, and Folk music.

People will again attempt to identify themselves by music. There will be a rediscovery of The Beatles (Anthologies; "natural" music) and Eric Clapton, and all music which connects the present with the future, and the past.

Art...

A much harder one for me, as I am not artistically inclined.

Take the human body: What will Art represent in 50 years?

My opinion will be: there will be a Renaissance of Art representing the natural beauty represented by Mona Lisa and other classics.

[ekim68]

As an aside, fifty years ago....

DESKTOP VIEW
50 years of US spaceflight

In addition to what Brad says, I think the media and medium are gonna change especially because of the internet....In our area there are concerts geared to individual homes, mostly local groups, for people who don't want to go out and engage with a few thousand others.... And recently I've started to jam with a couple of friends who live over a thousand miles away through Skype and other such programs, and I predict it will get better and smoother....

[pyritechips]

I hope one fad that dies out are tattoos. I am getting very sick of them. I expect to see increased personal isolationism as people spend more of their time social networking and less time with real people.

[valis]

Originally Posted by ekim68

As an aside, fifty years ago....

DESKTOP VIEW
50 years of US spaceflight

In addition to what Brad says, I think the media and medium are gonna change especially because of the internet....In our area there are concerts geared to individual homes, mostly local groups, for people who don't want to go out and engage with a few thousand others.... And recently I've started to jam with a couple of friends who live over a thousand miles away through Skype and other such programs, and I predict it will get better and smoother....

just to continue with the spaceflight issue; I wrote about the X-15 recently (blog entry here for those bored enough to read it) and how I feel Sputnik actually set the American space program back a few decades. Somewhat pertinent to the subject at hand, I guess, but not very.

My biggest fear of the next 50 years is, ironically enough, our dependence upon the little PCB's.......printed circuit boards. A good solar shot or an enemy EMP in LEO and this society is done. There have been studies done that state that the solar pulse that hit in 1859 or so, were it to hit today, would cripple the North American electrical grid for upwards of a decade.

That, and I think we are vastly underestimating global warming.......I would state that those are the two areas that we, as a species are most at risk at.......

As for art.......my friend Brad, it never changes...... Art is and will always remain art, and it is always in the eye of the beholder. I favor Seurat; the missus like Renoir and Matisse......If something like the statue of David can sustain the tests of time, I reckon what our current artists are putting out will be equally revered......


if society is still around, of course.

[ekim68]

I have never understood the 'tatoo' thing....Why mess up your only skin? The Social Networking is not a bad thing, IMO....I've been in touch with friends and relatives that I lost twenty years ago.... However I do understand the addictive nature...

[Drabdr]

Originally Posted by ekim68

As an aside, fifty years ago....

DESKTOP VIEW
50 years of US spaceflight

In addition to what Brad says, I think the media and medium are gonna change especially because of the internet....In our area there are concerts geared to individual homes, mostly local groups, for people who don't want to go out and engage with a few thousand others.... And recently I've started to jam with a couple of friends who live over a thousand miles away through Skype and other such programs, and I predict it will get better and smoother....

Okay... that's truly thought provoking....

But I have to ask... part of that is the artist who puts the Art above the dollar. Yes?

It would be nice to see the Artists put the Art first, but... some have a family to provide for...

[ekim68]

I have always put the Art first....As a matter of fact, I've made exactly $26.00 playing music over the last forty-five years... But also as a matter of fact, I haven't depended on it to survive.... Even a 'wanna be socialist' has to put food on the table....

[Drabdr]

Originally Posted by valis

just to continue with the spaceflight issue; I wrote about the X-15 recently (blog entry here for those bored enough to read it) and how I feel Sputnik actually set the American space program back a few decades. Somewhat pertinent to the subject at hand, I guess, but not very.

My biggest fear of the next 50 years is, ironically enough, our dependence upon the little PCB's.......printed circuit boards. A good solar shot or an enemy EMP in LEO and this society is done. There have been studies done that state that the solar pulse that hit in 1859 or so, were it to hit today, would cripple the North American electrical grid for upwards of a decade.

That, and I think we are vastly underestimating global warming.......I would state that those are the two areas that we, as a species are most at risk at.......

As for art.......my friend Brad, it never changes...... Art is and will always remain art, and it is always in the eye of the beholder. I favor Seurat; the missus like Renoir and Matisse......If something like the statue of David can sustain the tests of time, I reckon what our current artists are putting out will be equally revered......


if society is still around, of course.

First, I read your blog. Pretty nice job. I didn't know you had one.

I wished I knew you were such a fanatic. I would have taken more pictures of the Smithsonian Air and Space. (Personal suggestion... wait until the boy is older, where he can soak it all up)

Ok, back to topic.... I tend to remain overly optimistic about air and space. I remain so optimistic about pushing further; about seeing more. In 50 years, if we could reach.... say... Pluto, what ancillary advancements will be dragged along?

As for Art, the perception of Art does change. View the statue of David with Renoir and other Impressionist artists. What will artists perceive as "Art" in fifty years?

[Drabdr]

Originally Posted by ekim68

I have always put the Art first....As a matter of fact, I've made exactly $26.00 playing music over the last forty-five years... But also as a matter of fact, I haven't depended on it to survive.... Even a 'wanna be socialist' has to put food on the table....

Well... true that. So, in fifty years, will society compensate the artist to make Art; or will they need to make economic decisions that they are having to make today?

[ekim68]

First off, about the Art thing....They're still playing the Classics from the last thousand years or so, and thus it's through the current Artist that we see or feel the effect... As far as Economic Decisions, did you ever see the movie 'Alien'?