[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by ekim68

So, let's continue to keep pumping carbon monoxide into the atmosphere and that will suffice, eh?

Try to stay on track, old man. We're talking about California electrical usage.

(California uses primarily nuclear and hydro for power generation, not coal)

[Davec]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

(California uses primarily nuclear and hydro for power generation, not coal)

Do you have a cite for that? A few years back I was surprised to learn that Pacific Power generated about 75% of their total from coal.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Davec

Do you have a cite for that? A few years back I was surprised to learn that Pacific Power generated about 75% of their total from coal.

This is the quickest source I could find
Hope that it is sufficient

California Energy Output by Source (Electrical Utilities) 2002 [1]

Source ... Megawatts ... % of Total
----------------------------------------------------

Petroleum ......... 43,933 ... 0.02

Natural Gas ....... 8,808,012 ... 4.8

Nuclear ........... 34,352,340 ... 18.6

Hydroelectric ..... 29,995,647 ... 16.8

Other Renewables .. 1,388,339 ... 12.9


California Energy Output by Source (Electrical Utilities plus
Independent Power Producers) 2002 [1]

Source ... Megawatts ... % of Total
----------------------------------------------------

Coal .............. 2,327,809 ... 1.3

Petroleum ......... 1,961,066 ... 1.1

Natural Gas ....... 89,624,044 ... 48.7

Other Gasses ...... 1,240,053 ... 0.7

Nuclear ........... 34,352,340 ... 18.6

Hydroelectric ..... 30,899,631 ... 16.8

Other Renewables .. 23,680,568 ... 12.9

Other.............. 124,520 ... 0.1


Coal is less that 2%.

[LANMaster]

California "Temporarily" Confiscates More Income From Working Families


The Moonbat-Run State of California has figured out a way to help itself to more of the taxpayers money without technically raising taxes. The LA Times explains.

Starting Sunday, cash-strapped California will dig deeper into the pocketbooks of wage earners -- holding back 10% more than it already does in state income taxes just as the biggest shopping season of the year kicks into gear.
Technically, it's not a tax increase, even though it may feel like one when your next paycheck arrives. As part of a bundle of budget patches adopted in the summer, the state is taking more money now in withholding, even though workers' annual tax bills won't change.
Think of it as a forced, interest-free loan: You'll be repaid any extra withholding in April.

Sure, the taxpayers will get it back, or maybe they'll just get an IOU. So, basically, a person who works hard for a living is going to get a pay cut so that welfare benefits to illegal immigrants and the bloated rolls of state employees can go on as usual.


Link

[Davec]

To see what's actually used you need to go further down on that page:

California Gross System Power 2003/Fuel Type Gigawatt-Hours [2] [3]
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Fuel Type GSP % of Total

Coal ............... 59,016 21.3
Large Hydro ........ 44,926 16.2
Natural Gas ........ 102,005 36.9
Nuclear ............ 41,925 15.2
Renewables ........ 28,740 10.4

[LANMaster]

They seem contradictory to the above numbers.

[Davec]

The discrepancy is due to the fact that your numbers are output and The Granola Trough receives a lot of power from other state. I believe a the "Large Hydro" is probably largely from the dams on the Columbia.

[LANMaster]

.. and the Hoover

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Try to stay on track, old man.

Who are you calling an old man?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Who are you calling an old man?

LMAO!!

Got me there.

[poochee]

Pay-by-the-mile auto insurance advances in California
Not a bad idea, IMO.
By Jim Sanders
Published: Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 4A
Last Modified: Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2009 - 7:33 am

Car insurance by the tankful?

Not quite, but California moved a step closer last month to pay-as-you-drive policies that could allow motorists to buy insurance like they do gasoline – a little at a time.

Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner released regulations permitting and authorizing mileage verification for pay-as-you-drive, without dictating what form such plans must take.

The goal is to use per-mile pricing to entice Californians not to drive so much, thus easing air pollution, relieving traffic congestion and lowering the number of traffic collisions.

A first-of-its-kind plan is MileMeter, available only in Texas, which last year began offering six-month policies with chunks of insured miles ranging from 1,000 to 6,000 miles. When the "tank" runs dry, motorists buy more.

"We absolutely anticipate coming to California," said Chris Gay, MileMeter founder and chief executive officer.

"Our take is that half the market out there is being overcharged and underserved – and that's who we aim to address."

A more conventional pay-as-you-drive plan might offer a yearlong policy based on projected mileage, then upon expiration, provide a refund or rebill the driver based on actual mileage as verified by odometer readings or an electronic device.

Excerpts from: http://www.sacbee.com/capitolandcali...y/2300940.html

[ekim68]

That's not a bad idea, IMO. Would be worth looking at some figures.. I'm riding my bike more, but winter's coming and I'll use the car for the convenience of warmth. Still, I've cut my driving in half over the last three years...

[wacor]

Does not Progressive offer monthly insurance? That is another way to keep costs down. Pain in the neck but it allows insurance companies to adjust quicker if somebody has accidents and tickets. now that would not be fair though would it

[poochee]

Database: See how many workers in your profession don't have health insurance
Phillip Reese .Informative database for Califonians.
Published: Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2009 - 8:35 am
Last Modified: Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2009 - 11:21 am

This database shows the number of California adults under 65 without health insurance during 2008 for nearly every profession, according to new U.S. Census numbers. Only those who work 30 or more hours a week are included. Pick a sector and/or profession to see how many California workers in that field don't have health insurance.

http://www.sacbee.com/1098/story/2302298.html

[poochee]

Garamendi wins Tauscher's seat in special election
By Judy Lin
Associated Press
Published: Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2009 - 12:14 am
Last Modified: Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2009 - 8:32 am

Garamendi, 64, had said throughout the campaign that he will support the president in his effort to repair the economy and would vote with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., on health care legislation. He told supporters gathered at his campaign headquarters in Walnut Creek that he planned to be on a flight Wednesday to Washington for his swearing-in this week.

He made clear he would serve the needs of his constituents.

"It's a great night. We have work to do in this district. We're going to deal with the health care issue, the economy, the foreclosure issue, the jobs," Garamendi said. "We're going to start it off in a big hurry."

Excerpts from: http://www.sacbee.com/capitolandcali...y/2304092.html