[sy2]

Originally Posted by Guyzer

Of course not. If I did I would have re-loaded.

LMAO

[jmosmith]

Originally Posted by valis

how can something evolve into death?

No, no. I think that's just another one of those "metamorphosis" things!!!

[jmosmith]

New thread eh!? Isn't this "evolution" 5 now? or is it just 4? ...these micro-evolutions are so subtle, it gets hard to tell sometimes.

...so I guess someone will just have to post something absurd again!!!? Wonder how long it will take THIS time!?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by jmosmith

New thread eh!? Isn't this "evolution" 5 now? or is it just 4? ...these micro-evolutions are so subtle, it gets hard to tell sometimes.

...so I guess someone will just have to post something absurd again!!!? Wonder how long it will take THIS time!?

Give me a minute!

[Gabriel]

I guess we can talk about Noahs Ark again

[wacor]

Originally Posted by Gabriel

I guess we can talk about Noahs Ark again

You are gonna ruin my day if you tell me it was not real.

[angelize56]

CREATION!

[angelize56]

I see in thread 3 I posted the wrong addy to this thread!

[angelize56]

Now Val will be perusing this thread soon...so...evolution...or CREATION?

[jmosmith]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Give me a minute!

HA!!!... <got me>

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by jmosmith

HA!!!... <got me>

Good morning, Jaymo!

We've beat this subject to a puree.
I'd rather ask if you or Jack have been out riding lately.

I got to ride a little last weekend. I would have loved to make a whole day of it and get lost in the Arkansas woodlands.
('cept I might get shot by a hunter)

[sy2]

This place is unbelievable...

Ars takes a field trip: the Creation Museum
http://arstechnica.com/articles/cult...ion-museum.ars

To begin with, the museum presents real science alongside its version; an aviary containing finches is the first thing to greet you as you began your tour. The finches were a profound influence on Darwin and his theory of natural selection and are still studied by evolutionary biologists today. Another display contained poison frogs. This was of particular interest to me, since they claim the reason poison frogs aren't poisonous in captivity is due to the Almighty. I'm fairly sure it's due to the lack of poisonous mites in their diet, but there you go.
....
The flood plays a big part in the museum's attempt to explain away what we see as millions of years of natural processes. There was also an explanation as to why, with only one progenitor family, it wasn't considered incest for Adam and Eve's children to marry each other. Apparently there was less sin back then, and therefore fewer mutations in their DNA. Evidently sin, not two copies of the same recessive trait, gives rise to congenital birth defects.
....
Meanwhile, the founder of the museum, Australian Ken Ham, is being investigated by a former Chief Magistrate in his home country for deceptive conduct and other wrongdoings in relation to the Australian church organization he was once affiliated with. This is hot on the heels of the incarceration of that other leading light of the creationist movement, Kent Hovind, who was recently sentenced to a decade in prison for tax evasion.

There's also a virtual tour on Flickr that the author posted here.

I find it absolutely astonishing the lengths that people will go to in order to rationalize their beliefs in face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I have a feeling that this museum will end up being more of an embarrassment to the Creationist movement than a positive tool.

[Wino]

How? By being a showcase of their ignorance?

[sy2]

Originally Posted by Wino

How? By being a showcase of their ignorance?

Ultimately, yes. Religion, historically, has adapted, or evolved , to embrace proven scientific discoveries that would otherwise obliterate it. The earth being at the center of the universe is a well-known example. For the longest time this theory was dismissed because the faithful couldn't reconcile that idea with their inerrant Bible. But you can only hold out so long in the face of overwhelming physical evidence, and the religion either adapts or sinks.

It's happening right now with evolution, it's just not pervasive amongst the faithful yet. Many faithful scientists believe that evolution was just a tool used by God. Others flat-out deny that it happened. Eventually, evolution will either have to be debunked (which doesn't look likely, at all) or religion will have to incorporate it in order to remain relevant.

Building a museum based on the idea that the Earth is 6,000 years old and that every word of the Bible is literally true doesn't leave much room for adaptation. Plenty of room for embarrassment, though.

[jmosmith]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Good morning, Jaymo!

We've beat this subject to a puree.
I'd rather ask if you or Jack have been out riding lately.

I got to ride a little last weekend. I would have loved to make a whole day of it and get lost in the Arkansas woodlands.
('cept I might get shot by a hunter)

unless I have to haul tools or materials, I am on my bike daily! but it is getting HOT down here!!! Good thing the bike's a "convertable"