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17-Sep-2007, 11:15 AM #16
There might be some collectors out there that area looking for parts. So it might worth a look around the net.
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17-Sep-2007, 10:59 PM #17
Hi Fred,
I am looking forward to getting that space back ....
tried again to move that crank, still no go,
Don't really want it hanging about - so its going
to the scrapyard, sorry - recyclers !

John
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18-Sep-2007, 11:52 PM #18
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Originally Posted by john1
The reason i wanted to get the engine to run is that breakers (car
scrap dealers) locally will give sixty pounds sterling (121 dollars)
for a scrap vehicle if you drive it in. If they have to collect it,
its much less.
But it looks like it will be collected. Probably tomorrow.

Regards, John
Dude, that's a MINI! It's a collector car! You don't want to scrap THAT! Those are worth a lot nowadays!
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19-Sep-2007, 09:20 AM #19
Hi BanditFlyer,

That car in that picture is probably 'collectable' it doesn't look
very rusty, and its quite clean and tidy.
But that car in that picture is not the one in my garden, as i said
in that post, thats just a picture i found on google.

Its true i don't wan't to scrap it, but around here they are
not worth much, especially in poor condition and a siezed crank.
And possibly broken drop-gears (although i think they're fine)
but you can't be sure till you drive it or visually inspect them.

Its actually in my way however if you want it you are welcome to come
and take it away, i will even give you a cup of coffee.
I dont know whereabouts "BOT ?aH??T" is, a lot of your posts are
beteween ten in the evening and four in the morning (my time), so i
guess that you are probably not living in England.

Four to six hours hours Westwards would take me to probably the West
coast of America, or maybe inland a bit if you don't go to bed early.
You might of course live just along the way from me, but keep late
hours.

Montana? Nevada?
If not U.S. then maybe Canada,
anyway, they may be collectable over there, and worth some time and
trouble but here i'm afraid its not.

Heres a couple of pics of this one.

Regards, John
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19-Sep-2007, 09:45 AM #20
Hello john1

I've been following your thread with interest as I used to be a mechanic.
From these recent pictures of the engine, I would suspect that corrosion of both the cylinder walls and the pistons are contributing to the locked up engine.
Even if you free up the crank and pistons, it's highly doubtful there would be enough compression to start the engine.

Piston ring seal would likely be almost nonexistent and since the valves look rusty, the valves probably won't seal , either.

My recommendation......don't put any more effort into making it run if you are getting rid of the car.
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19-Sep-2007, 11:53 AM #21
Hi John,

Yeah, I'm on the West Coast of the US. Shame about that car. Those cylinders looks like a proctologist's nightmare. I'm guessing Stoner's right about not putting more effort into getting it running, although I don't know enough about mechanics to really be able to judge.
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19-Sep-2007, 12:10 PM #22
Hi Stoner,

Ahaa, used to be a mechanic ay.
As you say, its all pretty corroded.
Yes its my opinion that the lack of movement in the crank is mainly
due to the pistons & rings becoming jammed to the cylinder walls.
I too have seen many engines in similar condition, some worse, some
not as bad. The other parts associated with the crank - ends, mains,
odd bits here and there, do not usually seize unless things are left
for decades.

This is the first time i have given up trying to free a seized engine,
and the reason for leaving it now is because it is going to be
scrapped anyway. If there were any sense in continuing, then i would
carry on removing bits until i did get it freed up.

On this particular engine the flywheel is fixed to the crank with a
single bolt and a woodruff type key. I can get a little rotary movement
on the flywheel which i wondered about, but it seems this is just
distorting the keyway. This was after severe battering (in a rotary
direction) using large drifts and large hammers.

Usually after a severe battering, a little movement can be felt, which
can usually be worked back and forth, while adding lubricants, until
the crank is freed.
But not in this case, so far.

I wasn't looking for any degree of performance from this engine, but
i was hoping to start it, in order to drive it to a breakers yard.

I have been in touch with a breakers yard, they will not give me any
money for it, but they said they will take it away.
I will be contacting any other yards/recyclers that i can find, as i
have been told that most breakers will pay cash for scrap vehicles.

Regards, John
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19-Sep-2007, 12:11 PM #23
Hi Bandit Flyer,

So i guess you wont be popping round for a coffee then ?
Shame really, i was hoping you would tow it away,
to a better life of care and attention as befits the old thing.

Never mind, it can be recycled maybe into computer parts.

I am more than a little miffed that i am giving up on the engine.
Still, i gave it a good try.

Regards, John
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23-Sep-2007, 07:57 PM #24
no oil will not melt aluminium...
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