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27-Nov-2004, 08:06 PM #16
Whitphil,
I moved them elsewhere and when I did a hotsync, 3 of them reappeared as seen below:



Sure is a heck of a lot of space! Wonder why it is doing this or what these are for?

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27-Nov-2004, 08:52 PM #17
Unfortunately, I have no idea.

Did you do 3 syncs? Or, sync 3 things?

These DMP files could be the work files that Palm uses to sync with??

Wny they are in the ZA folder is weird. Out of curiousity, do Start >Run > Command
and
at the prompt, enter Set

Note what the values are for temp and tmp

Also, if there is a Palm config type icon, see if there is anything there?
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27-Nov-2004, 10:51 PM #18
My Palm syncs with AvantGo (news service), Epocrates (a medical server), and Vindigo (a map program). Perhaps that is why it is dumping the 3 files, but I just now snyched it again and it dumped only 2 files in there this time, one at 62MB and one at 74MB. Here's what I have at the SET command:



Don't really see anything Palm related there.

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27-Nov-2004, 11:00 PM #19
You may want to track down a support forum at Palm and ask about the DMP files. And also about what directory they "normally" are created in.

It does seem that the number is based on the items being synced. Perhaps the last time, one of the feeds had nothing to synch???
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28-Nov-2004, 01:17 AM #20
Thanks, will check with them on this. I know recently I've had some issues when synching some of these items, especially Epocrates. Iwas getting Bad Mem_Pointer problems,etc. but they seemed to clear up. I then started noticing that I was losing space on my C: drive and started looking and noticed that the Internet Log files were filling quickly and a Google led me to this forum. I appreciate the help - seems like another one of those weird computer things.

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28-Nov-2004, 02:32 AM #21
I take an entirely different view to the complete problem.

It seems like people do worry about the idea of "Bloat" on their drives and what impact it has??

My approach is totally different, I could care less about how efficient bytes are used. I dedicate the Drive C to only the OS and its associated files. At present on the system I am typing on, the Drive C is a 40G drive, using something like a wopping 4G's, some of that is a back up file that is also maintained on that drive. Duh, a copy on the same drive.

No partitions, no fancy anything. I only bought a 40G because it was about the same price as a 20G, could have gotten away with a 10G and been swimming in spare capacity.

Part of it is how you attempt to tackle various problems. I don't use Drive C for routine purposes. Never download to it, never use it as a work area, never do anything that involves a lot of read / write / erase / rework type moving data about. Basically set up the system, occasionally add or delete a program.

Everything else happens in a "Work Area" on a Zip Drive or on a physical hard drive loaded as a data drive. These data drives are swappable via a removable rack / tray system. This idea of recycle bin never comes into play because a Zip Drive deletes are not saved or related to the recycle bin. All my bad ideas, simply go down the drain about like operating from a floppy. Very little impact. Also all downloads must go to a ZIP. Almost nothing of a "Raw Unprocessed Nature" goes to any hard drive.

Therefore defragging isn't a big concern, rarely needed, security is greatly enhanced, back ups become far more easy to do.

Basically my approach always questions "Exactly how do I keep the OS in peak condition"???? Plus how do I keep it totally secure??? One big goal is never, never, never have to ever reload the OS. In coming on ten years, I have met that goal.

So, my basic argument "Bloat" is not the concern if you design the system correctly in terms of hardware. Slowly but surely I am proving this out to myself. I use Win98Se, Win2000 and Win XP Pro in a swappable system where OS's can share two separate hardware systems. I prefer to surf with Win98SE.

Always in the market for new ideas or new programs that sort of support my goals. Started using CCleaner, like the results. Lately have gotten more into this idea of the "Tracks One is Leaving" in various files. I went back and investigated how to be editing or managing the Registry. Sort of now convincing myself, it is far more about how the Registry is organized, defragged or compacted than its size or bloat.

Guess to this stage I am happy, would like to find a program that can "Erase tracks in the data area of the Registry, I can do it manually. Always that trade off between your desires and the next screw up.

If there is any magic touch stone to any of it. You can have too many methods of back up and hopeful one of them will work on restore.

So I don't think the size of the bloat is the problem but more how the OS is organized to work around it. My fear is always mindless programs to cure "Bloat" screw up and the back ups don't work.

Plus I rarely can ever see a positive result on decreasing "Bloat" size to increased OS performance directly, assuming nothing else changed. Think I am saying size doesn't matter as well as it is well organized.

With brings us to the problem of what programs to use for getting organized. Think I am say, first the Registry optimizing programs are the ones to look at, defrag if you are old school, mega one hard drive user, a World impossible to balance out.
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28-Nov-2004, 10:20 AM #22
Well, that was nice and all, but had little to do with Hotsync files being dumped for some unknown reason onto my C: drive. It wasn't like I pointed them that way. I install all my programs on other partitions and keep my data on other partitions as well. That doesn't mean that when installing a program, nothing at all ends up on C: There is always something of the program that must go to C: I can't control that. My Windows folder on C: is some 2.8 Gigs by itself.

But you make some good points, although bloat on the C: was not really a concern one way or the other with me - I was just trying to make sure I had enough room to install the Service Pack and this Hot Synch issue is puzzling. I've written Palm in the meantime to see if they have an idea.
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13-Dec-2004, 01:22 PM #23
After writing to Palm, AvantGo, Epocrates and Vindigo, they have no solutions whatsoever. They just suggest uninstalling all of the Palm software and starting over. Microsoft wants $35 to discuss over the phone, something I'd rather not do. So I guess I am off to uninstall all my Palm software.

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02-May-2005, 11:32 PM #24
Well, I never figured out why my palm pilot syncs put .dmp files into c:\Windows\Internet Logs, but I just delete them and go on my merry way.

However, I just installed SP2 and interestingly enough, I happened to notice the following files in there, actually 3 instances of the same file. They are named
IEXPLORE_2nd_2005_04_28_01_43_10.dmp.zip, IEXPLORE_2nd_2005_04_28_01_43_30.dmp.zip,
IEXPLORE_2nd_2005_04_28_04_57_11.dmp.zip

The first two are 38,678KB in size. The last one is 38,863KB in size.

Any idea why those went there? And is it safe to delete those?

Thanks,
Mark

This is just too weird.
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23-Jun-2005, 02:56 PM #25
gOING WAY BACK IN THIS THREAD - I tried to remove a couple of the "log" files that you recommended out of the Internet Logs Folder - BUT - It would NOT allow removal - said another program is using that file - shut it down first??? Can you please advise?

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08-Apr-2006, 04:30 PM #26
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Originally Posted by WhitPhil
The folder Internet Logs is created by ZoneAlarm.

BTW From Explorer, go to Tools > Folder Options > View tab and ensure that you have "Show All Files" selected, and UNselect "Hide File Extensions for Known File Types".

Now, under that folder you will normally find a LDB file, named after your computer name, and a lamdb.rdb file. These are the ZA main files.
You may also find a Backup.rdb file, tvdebug.log and ZAlog.txt file.

The latter is logging all ZA alerts, if you have this selected and can be removed it not needed.
TvDebug.log file can be deleted. If you don't do this periodically, this file will continually grow larger.

I have also found that over time, the RDB and LDB files also grow over time. So, periodically I restart to DOS/Safe mode, rename the files and reboot. ZA then rebuilds these files. After a couple of days, ensuring that all is well, I delete the 2 renamed files.
I have a TVDEBUG.log file on my computer and frequently it apparently causes my computer to even crash, and is causing Nortons to say that it has got the wrong amount of space allotted to it or something. When I try to delete it, then it says "ACCESS DENIED".. How on earth can I get rid of the darned thing. It is taking up 21 Megs of space, and I only have 400 megs left of a 6.1 Gig HD. Also I have two other files... RDB and LDB that won't let me delete them either..

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08-Apr-2006, 07:41 PM #27
Open the file C:\Autoexec.bat (or create one)
and add

Del C:\Windows\Intern~1\TvDebug.log

Then, this file will be deleted on every boot up.

The RDB and LDB files are the main ZA files. You "can" periodically delete them and then have ZA rebuild them, resulting in smaller files.

In order to do this, restart to DOS (or with a boot disk), CD to the folder and delete them.
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06-Dec-2006, 02:48 AM #28
How I deleted tvdebug.log
This is how I got rid of the tvdebug.log file and everything in the folder 'Internet Logs'

I went to C:\WINDOWS\Internet Logs and right clicked the folder 'Internet Logs' and clicked delete which sent it to the recycle bin.

I then restarted my computer with the folder still in the recycle bin because at this point it still prohibits you from deleting the file.

ZoneAlarm will create the folder again but this time the tvdebug.log file will be at zero kilobytes and now you can safely delete the files in the recycle bin.

I'm using Microsoft Windows ME operating system so the path of the Internet Logs folder will depend on which OS you have installed.

Important note: ZoneAlarm will reset some or all settings back to default if you delete the folder and everything in it so make sure you open ZoneAlarm and put the settings back the way you want after you restart your computer.

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