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27-Jul-2005, 08:59 AM #1
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hey guys

is a graphics card and a video card the same thing?

my pc's a few years old now and not running some newer games, such as The Sims 2. It runs it but certain parts freeze up etc due to my low grade graphics card/video card.

Can someone pelase tell me if

a: graphics card/video card - are the same thing

b: if they are not which one is important to playing games

c: which new graphics card/video card should i purchase? - i'm on a tight budget so it will be bought 2nd hand via ebay etc... i dont want the very best or the latest top daddy, just something which will allow me to play newer games!

thanks in advance guy!

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27-Jul-2005, 09:04 AM #2
They are the same thing, and to receive any advice on what to upgrade to you'll first have to tell us about the rest of your system. That is what motherboard you're using, etc etc.

If you don't know much about your computer download Everest Home Edition from http://www.lavalys.com.
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27-Jul-2005, 01:56 PM #3
Hey Clumbsy
Hey Clumbsy

Thanks for the reply, I dowloaded that prog and my PC stands as follows:

Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name PETE (pete)
User Name MACKBOSS SELECKTA

Motherboard
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 1666 MHz (12.5 x 133) 2000+
Motherboard Name MSI MS-6382(E) (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 CNR, 2 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8366A Apollo KT266A
System Memory 512 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award Modular (05/14/02)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 (64 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420
Monitor Iiyama Vision Master Pro MT-9017E/T [17" CRT] (72317885)

Multimedia
Audio Adapter VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller

Storage
IDE Controller VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive WDC WD1200BB-00CAA1 (110 GB, IDE)
Optical Drive HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8320B (32x/10x/40x CD-RW)
Optical Drive TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612 (16x/48x DVD-ROM)
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions
C: (FAT32) 112975 MB (33135 MB free)

Input
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse

Network
Network Adapter WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (80.1.36.76)
Modem Communications cable between two computers
Modem Generic SoftK56

Peripherals
USB1 Controller VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller


Thanks,

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27-Jul-2005, 04:37 PM #4
I tried searching for your exact chipset on MSI's website and came to this, but judging from all them models your board will be x4 AGP aswell.

I think you'd be able to upgrade to any AGP card there is, but it will only run at x4 speed as opposed to x8.

If you're from the UK you might want to check these cards out on Overclockers.co.uk

ATi: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/AGP.html
nVidia: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_AGP.html
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27-Jul-2005, 07:04 PM #5
hey
Hey Clumbsy

Thanks for the further info.

I don't understand what this means >> x4 AGP is that as in Pixel Pipelines?

When you said I can upgrade to any AGP card but it will only run at x4 speed as opposed to 8. Does that mean I'll only get half the performance from the graphics card?

I read this on another posting relating to playing sims 2 and minimum requirements: Need am A T&L-capable video card with at least 32 MB of video RAM...

ah what one to buy i wonder! so many choices and a lot are more reasonable then i expected. i know fitting these are easy but how hard are they to install?

thanks for your time.

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27-Jul-2005, 07:50 PM #6
do your research. obveously your computer is more for gaming then anything else so i would advise that you look up an ATI card,
but instead of troubling yourself with a redundant AGP card go ahead and try a PCI-express, you'll get around twice the performance out of it then you will with the latest AGP that your mobo can only handle running at x4 as aposed to x8.

and as far as setting it up and installing the card goes, its as easy as un-installing your current video card drivers and installing the new ones.

as far as your computer freezing on some places goes, i dont think that is a case of your computer not being able to handle the game (considering your 420 meets minimum requirements)
have your tried installing the latest nvidia drivers?
a few people posting on TSG have had the same problem and it was merekly a case of out-dated drivers

i hope aome of this helps (if not appologies for the wastage of time)

thanx
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27-Jul-2005, 09:02 PM #7
PCI-express isn't an option for CLUMBSY as he's running a motherboard with an AGP slot. There's not a big difference(if any) between AGP X4 and X8. Kind of tough to recommend a card because the rest of your system is rather old. The 6600gt(AGP version of course) is a very capable card and won't break the bank.
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27-Jul-2005, 09:45 PM #8
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PCI-express isn't an option for CLUMBSY

You mean Eatusfoetus, he started the thread :P.
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28-Jul-2005, 02:47 AM #9
heh. yep. correction.
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