[Compiler]

... and where does one buy a notebook video card?

Gatwaypc700: 7150 is still bottom end graphics. There is nothing special about it.

[gatewaypc700]

kK, what ever
Ive heard that some of the newer models can have new graphics cards brought for them (thanks BG-0,) but apart from this, I think that it is impossible...
James

[Compiler]

For the past 2~3 some-odd years, yes - some notebooks from the likes of Alienware have "video cards", but these are made during the time of purchase/order of the notebook. IE: Area-11 notebook, with a GF 7600m or 7900m cards... But as far as self-user replacable / upgradable cards... no. Even from within the same brand. The cards are made custom for the notebooks.

Unlike a desktop, notebooks don't have standard internal designs. A change here or there can effect the thermal dynamics of a notebook, besides power issues.

Now WHAT would be very nice and has been shown a bit. Is an external chassis for which to plug in a NORMAL desktop video card into the notebooks ePCIe type of slot. Such a video card would have its OWN PSU.

[Mosquito555]

Hmmm although I generally agree with you Compiler, I've played Sims 2 on a GeForce MX 440 with 64MBs of RAM. Also seen it running without major slowdowns on a notebook with an integrated Intel 945 graphics chip (Pentium M @1.7, 512MB RAM) and another with a mobile radeon 9200 or something (That's even older and though provided playable framerates on lower settings - Mobile Athlon XP 2800+, 256 MBs RAM).

I also tested many 3D gmes on my asus eee pc 900 (yup, crappy little netbok with an Intel 910 graphics chip)...I managed to achieve acceptable frame rates on games like warcraft 3, NFS hot pursuit 2 and -believe it or not- call of duty 1...

So, my point is that although these chips are generally crap, they are just enough to run older games...

Kaihu's laptop utilizes a dual core CPU, 2,5GBs of RAM and a graphics chip which is -slightly- faster than Intel's solutions. That's why I believe that the problem lies elsewhere, I wouldn't post if I haven't seen what I stated above.

Cheers!

[Compiler]

Sims2, Warcraft, NFS-2 are very old and don't need much horse power... they should be playable... but as weak as they are in general, it takes even less resources to bring down such computers.

[adamelm123]

its really diffucult to install a notebook graphics card if i asume ur noty that great with computers. so i reccomend that u either buy a notebook with a good graphics card. or if u build ur own gaming pc. and i was wondering how old u were

[McTimson]

adamelm123, the point being made is that laptop graphics cards are generally integrated into the motherboard, meaning they are soldered directly to the motherboard, and the BIOS is coded specifically for that chipset. In these situations, simply replacing the graphics card is impossible. It requires a new motherboard as well, which effectively eliminates the point of replacing a video card.

There are some laptops that have 'replaceable' video cards, but these are rare, and they are still usually proprietary solutions that don't give you much leeway in terms of upgrading.

I do agree that the Sims 2 should work on just about anything. It was designed as an 'everyone' type of game, to work on a large variety of systems. However, I don't trust laptop video cards on just about anything. They are misleading, because while they may have the same model number as a desktop solution, they are not identical, and they do not perform as well. If they did, then PCI Express video cards wouldn't be so huge. I think this is something that many laptop customers do not realize, they see a high number for the video card, and they assume that it can play new games.

I have a P4 laptop with 256MB RAM that can usually play videos. Not so great in full screen, but it does alright. Obviously, higher resolutions affect video processor performance, so what resolution are you trying to run the movies and games at?

[adamelm123]

i have 3 9800gtxs running in sli and they rae all overclocked
4gb ram at 800mh tri channel
250 gb velicioraptor solid state drive running raid
and a core i7 290 processor at 3.0gh
and a thermaltake armor gaming case

and my resoulution on a 30 inch monitor is running at 1600p on a dell x flat screen

[McTimson]

Sorry adamelm123, I was referring to the original poster's resolution, not yours, since you don't seem to have the problem running games on a laptop.

[Mosquito555]

Originally Posted by adamelm123

its really diffucult to install a notebook graphics card if i asume ur noty that great with computers.

As Compiler previously stated we are not talking about standalone graphics cards but for chipsets which take care of graphics processing. It requires more than computer skills to replace something like that. I don't know, maybe knowledge of assembly programming, and an electronics factory could help...

Originally Posted by adamelm123

so i reccomend that u either buy a notebook with a good graphics card. or if u build ur own gaming pc.

You see some people can't afford a gaming laptop, let alone that those things are usually bigger and heavier than your average laptop and ofc less powerful compared to their desktop equivalents - McTimson already explained why.

And please, read through the whole thread before coming into conclusions, Kaihou wants to play Mapple Story, a 2D sidescrolling game and Sims 2 which was designed to be playable on almost every machine of that era (McTimson pointed that as well).

If Kaihou wanted to run Crysis on his portable then you would have been right, now you're just talking nonsense. So please, read through the thread and if you have some descent advice post it.

Originally Posted by adamelm123

and i was wondering how old u were

I really tried not to commend on this one but, what exactly is your point? He can be 10 years old, does it matter? Kaihou posted here in order to get help and not to be flamed about his age, decisions and maturity. Again he/she owns a good laptop and wants to have fun with 2 simple and lightweight games - not Crysis.

[Mosquito555]

Originally Posted by McTimson

I do agree that the Sims 2 should work on just about anything. It was designed as an 'everyone' type of game, to work on a large variety of systems. However, I don't trust laptop video cards on just about anything. They are misleading, because while they may have the same model number as a desktop solution, they are not identical, and they do not perform as well. If they did, then PCI Express video cards wouldn't be so huge. I think this is something that many laptop customers do not realize, they see a high number for the video card, and they assume that it can play new games.

Mate, I don't trust laptop graphics cards either...However I have seen the Sims 2 working on slower machines.

Kaihou's laptop normally would have no problems with those games. I don't know but I think Vista is the problem. After googling around a bit I came across people who were complaining about Sims 2 performance on Vista. I don't have the time fot further research right now, when I can I'll post back if I find something.

That's why I did advice Kaihou to install DirectX 9c on his Vista machine. Dunno maybe DirectX 10 is working in a different way.

Kaihou can you install the latest video drivers for your laptop? And check for Sims 2 patches, I recall coming across something called "Sims 2 Vista patch", I guess it just helps with compatibility but it might help.

[Compiler]

I think adamelm123 is messing with you / us. In another part of the site, he says he has ordered a 9800GTX from ebay for his HP computer and as asking if it such a card would fit.

Most people who run 3-way SLI know what their talking about... his "computer" stats don't even really work or exists. "i7 290?" "4Gb RAM" and "250 gb velicioraptor solid state drive running raid" come on?! A: WD raptors aren't SSDs B: VelociRaptor drives come in 150GB & 300GB sizes, C: WD doesn't have a SSD drive on the market. And someone concerned about someone else age don't usually type so horribly.

He's messing with you.

[wiley8425]

Originally Posted by Compiler

I think adamelm123 is messing with you / us. In another part of the site, he says he has ordered a 9800GTX from ebay for his HP computer and as asking if it such a card would fit.

Most people who run 3-way SLI know what their talking about... his "computer" stats don't even really work or exists. "i7 290?" "4Gb RAM" and "250 gb velicioraptor solid state drive running raid" come on?! A: WD raptors aren't SSDs B: VelociRaptor drives come in 150GB & 300GB sizes, C: WD doesn't have a SSD drive on the market. And someone concerned about someone else age don't usually type so horribly.

He's messing with you.

Not to mention most people who run any sort of SLI know a lot about power requirements needed for such a setup. I agree with you that this guy is probably messing around on here.

[adamelm123]

im not messing with u, i accidently said solid state drive, and i am running three 9800gtxs in sli, and it works fine, and i have to 150gb velicioraptors. and i ment core 950, and wats wrong with 4gb ram

[Compiler]

LOL... you're funny.

How does one "accidently" type in solid state and 250GB?
How does ones get 4GB in tri-channel setup?
How does one "accidently" type in 290, instead of "950"?

And how does a person get their hands on an intel i7 950? A CPU that doesn't even exist?

On 30-Mar-2009, you posted if a 9800GTX will fit into your HP... which if your i7-950 not-so real computer had 3 such cards, you could have pulled a card out and see for yourself.

Somehow your HP pavillionwent from an AMD 4800 and Overclocked a basic name-brand computer to 3Ghz? And now you're going to put in a $70 Antec1200watt PSU into that "crowded" case... for a single card.... Lets see Antec's 1000watt PSU goes for $250s and won't fit into your HP... and yet you got 1200watt PSU for $70...

Oh yeah, of course! there's NO such thing as an Antec 1200watt PSU!

Here is your other thread of made-up hardware: http://forums.techguy.org/games/8142...ml#post6605390

You asked someone's age, so I'm going to guess that you are a kid.
You are also a poser trying to look you have some HOT stuff for some reason.
You FAIL. Why bother pretending? When you get caught, you only look silly.