[Nebastion]

Cods gonna be great, cods Graphics are amazing......
Whats the point, No custom mods, no Dedi Servers,
Forget Tak Realism, Obscurity,

FORGET MODS ALTOGETHER UNLESS WE CAN CHANGE THEIR MINDS>:

Even to all you Non pc gamers, help us out if you think its unfair.

Click the Link and read the petition........

Be one of many to rise up against Infinity Ward and thier Greedy Decision.

Thank you Neb.
Cod Name; SEPHIROTH

Oh yeah and Hitler is angry TOO

[Couriant]

probably should be in random discussion... but still their product... they can do what they want... if you don't like it, don't buy it. That will be more of a clear message... hurt their pockets by not buying it, not their eyes from petitions...

[dvk01]

This has been reported for a move to random discussion

I feel it is a games specific issue so should stay here in games

[Nebastion]

But its not about that;
Like the major factor here is that i want the game and i want them to support thier gamers by letting us play with our friends, and mod maps and the usual fun stuff, theirs alot of people who follow their games and support them.

No Clans, No scrims, No mods, No custom maps, the game wont last, they can re invent it witha map pack and we will probably have to pay for it.

I WANT the game, i also want the freedom to mod the game, like i Wont be buying the game, it'll hurt their pockets and ill hurt their eyes as well,
Not buying the game is the action, the Reason (which most actions have) is the petition, its the only way to try get what we want.


Regards
Neb.

[Couriant]

Originally Posted by Nebastion

But its not about that;
Like the major factor here is that i want the game and i want them to support thier gamers by letting us play with our friends, and mod maps and the usual fun stuff, theirs alot of people who follow their games and support them.

No Clans, No scrims, No mods, No custom maps, the game wont last, they can re invent it witha map pack and we will probably have to pay for it.

I WANT the game, i also want the freedom to mod the game, like i Wont be buying the game, it'll hurt their pockets and ill hurt their eyes as well,
Not buying the game is the action, the Reason (which most actions have) is the petition, its the only way to try get what we want.


Regards
Neb.

not trying to be a devil's advocate here... what about they want? Do you know why they are doing it?

Don't get me wrong... i know its fun to make maps and all, but at the end of the day, they had their reasons to go the route they are going.

[DaBeers]

The reason they went the route they did was to save money in development and maximize revenue. So far, cross platform titles have generally had to wait 3-6 months for release on the PC due to conversion issues and the "Let 'em wait" marketing approach to make sure the new release console sales spike is over before it is released with better graphics on the PC. It represents 8% of their total expected sales for this new title. The extra 3-6 months of converting the game controls and menus could represent millions of dollars that they must fear they may not recoup with sales, or shouldn't have to spend in the first place.

So, I suspect that what they are trying to do is change the market and get us used to playing more console-like titles. That means no creative outlet, scalable graphics or system intensive multi-player. You can blame the lazy 8-18 demographic who just want to play games and not worry about the issues that go along with the PC. Also, you can blame Microsoft for supporting a platform (360) that allows the developers to minimize development time, but not translate well when not run on the PC it was created on. A clear case of a company so big the left hand can't keep track of the right hand..? Or, it may be by design on their part. Attempting to sway the buyer to Microsoft hardware that a 4 year old could run. Windows for business, X-box for home. This would kill Mac if widely adopted. I believe it's what their looking to do. (Still not sure how the PS3 fits in, but it's dieing fast from the last financial I read.)

I think the answer is appalling, but truthfully, if you want the support back, toss your X-Box and buy more PC games. If the market share is present, we will see quality return to our games. However, I do believe this is becoming a very unethical business to be in when games can ship un-runable, scaled back, and price jacked, and then you can't return it when your not happy. When history said 'build a better mousetrap', these creeps built a better people/money trap instead.

(petition signed)

[Couriant]

Originally Posted by dabeers

(Still not sure how the PS3 fits in, but it's dieing fast from the last financial I read.)

PS3 outsold Wii and XBOX in September, and PS2 is still around after 9 years. PS3 is not going anywhere.

Speaking of COD, Microsoft banned 1Mil XBOXs from XBOX Live because they got COD before released date.... most likely because they played the mulitplayer/online part before release time...

[DaBeers]

All I'm saying is they posted poor financials at the end of 2008. Sales numbers don't mean anything if you've had to drop your price to meet developement costs, just to break even. I'm not sure where they are now, but I will for sure be looking again at the end of the year.

And your right... PS3 is not going anywhere. But, the future of Sony in the US is in question.

[Gulo Luseus]

This has rage for a while on my clan forum. The petition was never going to make any difference, as the number of people who didnt buy was too small for IW to care. It registered the protest but in reality, was a non starter.
The biggest problem was that waited until a few eeks before release date to release the info about no dedi servers, and even then it was rumour and twittered.
MW2 was one of the most looked forward to game,s after the success of COD WAW. IW, it would appear, have decided to control the whole operation, No mods, no maps, you oplay stock or not at all. Dedi servers meant tha tpeople could play as a group, and mods meant you could tune the game to the way you wanted it. IW have neglected the community that gave them their wealth- all their early games were PC, and thats where the money came from. to turn your back on the people who made you is a travesty.
By making the game Steam controlled, they have added to the player ping, which is unwanted. by using one persons console/PC as the host, they give one person an advantage with a 0 ping. By controlling the game, they decided f you have any updates, and they now have the ability- and they will use it- to charge money for new maps, as they do for console. The modding community is being cast out, which is strange as many of the maps etc came from them.
IW have jumped for the console bandwagon and ignored the PC. They have the audacity to tell us they have "Great PC feature" like chat and mouse control. Then they take away the ean feature, which is one of the most useful elements of the game. Could this be because it isnt in console and no one could bebothered to code it> Hmmm.

IW have forsaken their PC community, and in turn we have forsaken MW2. It is what they deserve.

[Couriant]

Originally Posted by DaBeers

All I'm saying is they posted poor financials at the end of 2008. Sales numbers don't mean anything if you've had to drop your price to meet developement costs, just to break even. I'm not sure where they are now, but I will for sure be looking again at the end of the year.

And your right... PS3 is not going anywhere. But, the future of Sony in the US is in question.

Just because they had a couple of bad quarters doesn't mean they will bail. The sales of PS3s (and by the looks of it PS2s), not to mention the games they produce, they won't be going anywhere. The PS3 still hasn't reached it's full capability yet so there is still room to be more successful.

[Nexlux]

ps3 is just getting started, while others are in their peak. The number of games to consoles sold is higher than xbox360 is what I last read in gameinformer, which is near my town and has quite a reputation for facts and not being biased

Anyways, I believe they are copping out PC gamers, yet the sales for the game went through the roof..... pretty much solely because of the xbox360 sales.

p2p is the worst idea ever for games, and it has never worked well. Maybe in the year 2550 when everyone has t4 and huge computers, but til then the average PC gamer either has DSL or cable. I myself have DSL, and I couldn't play it if I wanted to.

I agree, but a petition isn't gonna do ****.

[Couriant]

Originally Posted by Nexlux

p2p is the worst idea ever for games, and it has never worked well. Maybe in the year 2550 when everyone has t4 and huge computers, but til then the average PC gamer either has DSL or cable. I myself have DSL, and I couldn't play it if I wanted to.

Well if you do nothing else but the game, then you should be ok