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04-Jul-2009, 10:14 AM #1
Keyboard/Mouse Dead In Safe Mode.
When it is time to enter the password when attempting to start WinXP Pro SP3 in safe mode the keyboard and mouse are non functional.

Anyone know why would that be?
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04-Jul-2009, 09:41 PM #2
Hi!

Do you have USB support turned on in BIOS?
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09-Jul-2009, 01:37 AM #3
There is nothing listed in the BIOS about USB support.

The only two listing for USB are USB emulation and USB controller and both are turned on.

I can't even get safe mode option to appear anymore with the F1, F8, F12, Del or any other.

The last time I saw the safe mode option was after I pulled the plug on this thing after it ran out of RAM and seized up.

Even then safe mode wouldn't work because cutting the power corrupted the master boot record and I had to get the disk out and FIXMBR so I don't want to have to do that again to get the safe mode option. It wouldn't work that way anyway since safe mode still needs the MBR.

I need the safe mode to run some bug hunting software.
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09-Jul-2009, 02:00 AM #4
Close as I can get is F12 and none of these go to safe mode:

1. Normal
2. Hard-Disk Drive C:
3. IDE CD-ROM Device
4. System Setup
5. IDE Drive Diagnostiocs
6. Boot To Utility Partition
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09-Jul-2009, 02:10 AM #5
Well, what was the original problem anyway?

Are the lights getting switched on on the keyboard?
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09-Jul-2009, 09:17 AM #6
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Well, what was the original problem anyway?

Are the lights getting switched on on the keyboard?
The original problem is stated in the first post:

"When it is time to enter the password when attempting to start WinXP Pro SP3 in safe mode the keyboard and mouse are non functional."

Now I see that even the safe mode option never appears.

The lights always blink on the keyboard but not when I try to go to any mode other than normal Windows.

I'm assuming the mouse and keyboard drivers are not loading as I'm attempting to go into safe mode is the cause of this, now, the safe mode option has disappeared.

So the problem has actually changed since the first post.

Now I need to get the safe mode option to appear then find out why the mouse and keyboard drivers aren't loading.

Both the mouse and keyboard are PS/2 plugs.

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09-Jul-2009, 09:28 AM #7
OK time to tell us the hardware. There is no way to fix any hardware that would be safe without knowing the hardware.

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OK time to tell us the hardware. There is no way to fix any hardware that would be safe without knowing the hardware.
"When it is time to enter the password when attempting to start WinXP Pro SP3 in safe mode the keyboard and mouse are non functional."

"I can't even get the safe mode option to appear anymore"

Dell OptiPlex GX260
Intel Pentium 4, 2000 MHz (20 x 100)
A.K.A. Northwood, A80532

WIN XP PRO SP3

Up to date Norton Internet Security 2009 (with an unresolvable 3039,1 error ((symantec has no solution))) which was the reason I wanted to run some bug hunters in safe mode to see if that may be causing that error.

Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard

PS/2 Compatible Mouse
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09-Jul-2009, 11:41 AM #9
My solution would be to uninstall NIS using the Symantec Removal tool which your pc will kiss you for, and see if the same problem exists....
http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05033108162039
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09-Jul-2009, 02:18 PM #10
I've been the fix route with the 3039,1 error, nothing works.

I've read all they have over there on their forum and many others. All that accomplishes is that during the course of trying to resolve it I found something wrong with NIS that they subsequently fixed or updated and that just makes me their free diagnostic employee and I don't like that.

I don't believe NIS is causing this:

"When it is time to enter the password when attempting to start WinXP Pro SP3 in safe mode the keyboard and mouse are non functional."

"I can't even get the safe mode option to appear anymore"
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09-Jul-2009, 07:49 PM #11
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I don't believe NIS is causing this:
Fine want to buy a business?
I have had 3 client systems that would not boot to safe mode with NIS installed, but you know better I am sure!
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09-Jul-2009, 11:38 PM #12
Dear needafix,
Is it an "isolated" inability to boot into safe mode?Are you able to boot in Normal mode? If so, what is happening to the mouse and keyboard functions? As you know, what's displaying in devise manager? Kindly view this link :http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...ty-to-boo.aspx
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10-Jul-2009, 01:50 AM #13
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I've been the fix route with the 3039,1 error, nothing works.
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I don't believe NIS is causing this:
It's hard to help if we only keep getting little pieces of information regarding your problems. Instead of trying to treat the symptoms, we should be focusing on figuring out the cause and fixing that. It's quite clear that you should at least consider NIS to be that cause.

And if you ask for advice, don't dismiss a perfectly valid idea just because you don't think it will work. After all, you are here searching for a solution you would not have tried or not have thought of on your own, right?
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10-Jul-2009, 05:21 PM #14
I removed NIS 2009 and the safe mode option still doesn't appear.

I'm going to scan with a bunch of programs and then post the logs in Security & Malware Removal or I can keep it in this thread, whichever is convenient.
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You can keep them here then we can use "report" function to get a Malware Pro to read it for malware while we look at the rest of it.
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