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10-Mar-2012, 03:12 PM #31
ok i have done all of the above.

the CPU.... well.. i have unlocked 2 cores and overclocked it to 3.5Ghz
however the problem started before i made those changes and is just has frequant whilst quad or dual core, overclocked or not.
(all done through bios)

ever since i increasd the voltages i havnt gotten BSODs
the computer has however completely frozen and does that horrible sound through the speakers that sound like something in pain.

could be a co-insedence, but... never know.. just thought i'd add that.
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10-Mar-2012, 04:49 PM #32
What was running on the PC when it frooze and made the noise?
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10-Mar-2012, 05:12 PM #33
i was running star trek online

it happened again a few minutes ago, i was running star trek online and watching a film using windows media player

it happens if im playing skyrim or anything at all... i'v had it do this whilst just watching a film and nothing else..
it really could happen anytime regardless of what im doing on it.
but it does happen atleast 3-4 timesa day..
so far today its happened 3 times a think.
and all i have been doing today is playing star trek and talking on team speak. (exept for when iw as watching the movie)

but... whats interesting is, when i play EVE online, and i run both accounts at once.. it seems to freeze/restart/BSOD shortly after running them.

it does look like the chances go up the more ram is used..
yet, non of these errors happen when running thigns like memtest etc..... well they do, just not has likely to happen.
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10-Mar-2012, 05:45 PM #34
This is the problem of diagnosing intermittent faults, it can be hard work to pinpoint the cause.

Lets try some more tests with an item of diagnostic software called OCCT. We will start by stressing the PSU and go from there.


OCCT Instructions
  • Download OCCT and save to the desktop.
  • Extract the contents of the zip file to the desktop.
  • Double click on the OCCT folder to open it and then double click on the OCCT icon to run the program.
  • Click on the PSU tab, leave the default setting at 1 Hour, check the Automatic button and click on the green ON button and leave the test to run. Make sure all programs and your browser are closed and do not use the PC during the test.
  • When the test ends click on the OFF button to close the software.
  • The Results window should open, if not open Documents > OCCT. You should find a folder with todays date on it. Zip the folder and send it as an attachment with your next post.
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If the test stops before the set time this will indicate it has detected a fault. The program will still save a results folder for you to post.
If the tabs for the PSU and GPU are greyed out it means your DirectX 9 version is too old. OCCT requires DirectX 9.
You can manually check it easily : just look for the file d3dx9_37.dll in the following folder C:\Windows\System32
If it is not present, just download the latest Direct X9 Update for your OS and everything should run fine afterwards.
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10-Mar-2012, 05:48 PM #35
thank you.. i will get on that strait away. and i will post the results has soon ahs possible
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10-Mar-2012, 07:04 PM #37
ok
test is complete ran for the full hour, then it opened upa folder with screenshots.
to sum it up
each one says "No Error"
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10-Mar-2012, 08:24 PM #38
Please post the results folder as per the instructions so I can have a look through it.
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11-Mar-2012, 01:50 AM #39
couldn't send in one, was too big
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11-Mar-2012, 08:13 AM #40
Yup, that test went smoothly and all the reult show a perfectly healthy system.

Lets have a look at something else.

Download and install CPU-Z.
Click on the CPU tab, take a screenshot and attach it to your next post, repeat this with the Memory tab.

I am a bit confused by what you said in post 31. You said you unlocked two cores. This is a four core CPU so unlocking should not have been required, can you explain this further?
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11-Mar-2012, 09:25 AM #41
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Download and install CPU-Z.
Click on the CPU tab, take a screenshot and attach it to your next post, repeat this with the Memory tab.
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I am a bit confused by what you said in post 31. You said you unlocked two cores. This is a four core CPU so unlocking should not have been required, can you explain this further?
yeah sure, i baught a daul core CPU when building the system and later down the line when i updated the bios and first started it up i got an otpion at the bottom of the screen basically saying i can unlock my processor if i press 4 (can't remember exact words)
so i pressed 4.. and bang i got a free quad core for the price of a dual core
(problems happened before bios update, was hoping it may fix it)

from my understanding if the dual core is in high demand AMD (idk if intel do it) and they need duals in order to meet those needs and they don't have enough then they disable 2 cores from a quad and then sell it has a dual core..
well... thats what i was told anyway, idk if its true but it makes sense considering i now have a quad that was a dual core.
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11-Mar-2012, 11:27 AM #42
This puts us back to the RAM timing problem. The CPU-Z shows your RAM is running at 6-6-6-15 when it should be on 9-9-9-24. It also shows the frequency at 400MHz when it should be closer to 600 but that may increase under load.

The good news is that the RAM you are presently using has your motherboard in its compatability list.

I would have another dig around the Bios and see if you can change the timings.
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11-Mar-2012, 12:45 PM #43
i have looked a few times in the past and recently when iw as trying to change it when you mentioned the timings before.
however i can't seem to find anything in the BIOS options that involve the numbers 9/24 or 9-9-9-24

i'll take another look at it and let you know what i find and the options
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11-Mar-2012, 12:55 PM #44
Look in "JumperFree Configuration" > "DRAM Timing Mode" and see what other settings are available. You may need to experiment and then use CPU-Z again to see if anything has changed.
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11-Mar-2012, 01:41 PM #45
ok i think i got it.

after i post this i am going to do the only sure way i know of on how to make it freeze/BSOD/restart i know of... run several games at once whilst watching several movies at once :P
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