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15-Jun-2012, 07:34 AM #1
Forced to clean install graphics card drivers after reboot
Hi,

I'm playing Skyrim and America's Army 3 and FIFA 12. I experience stutters in all games. I built this new computer for Skyrim and was 10 hours into the game until I accidentally found out that a clean install of the Nvidia drivers fixes the problem. Now I need to clean install my drivers every time I reboot in order to be able to run those games without stutter. Clean install fixes it every time and is only needed after a reboot i.e. the problem returns only after a shutdown/reboot. I always keep my drivers up to date, but this problem has persisted since I bought the PC in autumn.

Now I would like to find a real solution to the problem, because its getting tedious to make a clean install after every reboot. Luckily I mostly put it to sleep.

All help appreciated.

P.S. My problem is the same as this guys: http://www.tomshardw...ttering-reboot

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX560 Ti AMP 1 GB
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K 3,3 GHz LGA1155
Power Supply: Corsair TX850W V2 Enthusiast
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4 GB 1600MHz DDR3
Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 750 GB SATA 6 Gb/s
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB
Motherboard: P8Z68-V
Case: Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
Operating system: Windows 7 64 bit

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15-Jun-2012, 09:16 AM #2
Is this system overclocked at all?

What bios are you running on the mb? There are a number of updates that address stability issues.

Have you done basic troubleshooting ie checked temps and voltages under load, etc? Is so, post those here.

BTW I have almost the exact same setup except running the pro gen3 version of that mb with an i2500k overclocked to 4.2. Very good setup; I have been pleased with the performance of the cpu/mb.
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15-Jun-2012, 05:16 PM #3
I have done no overclocking. CPUID HWMonitor is showing quite normal readings. It would seem odd that a driver clean install would reduce effect voltages and temps. My BIOS version is American Megatrends Inc. 0501, 9.5.2011.
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15-Jun-2012, 06:27 PM #4
Post your temps and voltages; ie 12V, 5V, and 3.3V values along with cpu and system temp.
Next that is who mfg the bios chip; not the version which is what I asked. You need to find out which bios version you are running. This info is available during post if you disable the splash screen. Latest one is 3404 I think however do check. There are a lot of stability fixes in the various bios updates.

One other item. You did clean install windows when you built the system correct?
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16-Jun-2012, 04:27 AM #5
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Post your temps and voltages; ie 12V, 5V, and 3.3V values along with cpu and system temp.
Next that is who mfg the bios chip; not the version which is what I asked. You need to find out which bios version you are running. This info is available during post if you disable the splash screen. Latest one is 3404 I think however do check. There are a lot of stability fixes in the various bios updates.

One other item. You did clean install windows when you built the system correct?
I'm not quite sure what you mean by clean installing windows? Since I built the computer I had to install windows from scratch of course.

This is the BIOS version I got from regedit:
ALASKA - 1072009
BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10
BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10

HW Monitor figures:
Hardware Monitors
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Hardware monitor Nuvoton NCT6776
Voltage 0 0.97 Volts [0x79] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage 1 1.02 Volts [0x7F] (VIN1)
Voltage 2 3.36 Volts [0xD2] (AVCC)
Voltage 3 3.36 Volts [0xD2] (3VCC)
Voltage 4 1.02 Volts [0x7F] (VIN4)
Voltage 6 0.85 Volts [0x6A] (VIN6)
Temperature 0 31C (87F) [0x1F] (SYSTIN)
Temperature 1 60C (140F) [0x188] (CPUTIN)
Temperature 2 35C (94F) [0x45] (AUXTIN)
Temperature 3 37C (98F) [0x25] (TMPIN3)
Fan 0 897 RPM [0x381] (SYSFANIN)
Fan 1 946 RPM [0x3B2] (CPUFANIN)
Fan 2 1079 RPM [0x437] (AUXFANIN0)
Register space LPC, base address = 0x0290

00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
00 04 AA 04 62 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
10 04 AA 00 AA 62 AA FF FF 40 00 00 00 00 87 00 00
20 79 7F D2 D2 7F FF 6A 1F FF FF FF DA 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF
40 03 FE 48 FF FF 00 3F FF 2D FF FF FF 18 05 00 A3
50 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF C1 FF FF FF FF 04 00 FF
60 00 FF FF FF FF 01 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
70 00 0A 00 25 00 25 00 25 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
80 FF 03 1F 0F FF 3C 3C 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 0A 00 00 00 00 0A 0A 0A 0A AA EF 80 FF 40 46 C4
A0 0E 01 00 00 FF 00 00 FF 00 00 80 66 66 06 01 01
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 30 00 1C 00 00 01 56 00 C4 FF
C0 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F 06 FF FF FF FF FF
D0 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
E0 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
F0 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

Hardware monitor NVIDIA NVAPI
Voltage 0 0.95 Volts [0x3B6] (VIN0)
Temperature 0 38C (100F) [0x26] (TMPIN0)
Fan 0 1020 RPM [0x3FC] (FANIN0)
Fan PWM 0 22 pc [0x16] (FANPWMIN0)

Thanks a lot for your time dude?
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16-Jun-2012, 06:38 AM #6
It would be a LOT easier if you just used asus probe to monitor temps and voltages. This is available on the asus site for download. It appears your cpu temp is running at 60C which is pretty hot unless you were doing something cpu intensive like encoding video. If that was at no load then it is way too hot.

To be sure, check your temps in the bios. Hardware monitor is a fine app however it often returns flaky info so check either with asus probe or in the bios.

Next the first bios date shown on the asus site 30 May 2011. You really need to find out what bios version you are running. This is shown during post [if you disable the splash screen] If it flashes by too quickly to see, simply hit the "Pause" key on the keyboard. This stops the post and allows you to read the info on the screen.

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Since I built the computer I had to install windows from scratch of course
Many people try and move an install from a hp, dell, whatever when they upgrade or build their system.
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18-Jun-2012, 07:15 AM #7
Hi cdjdriver,

My BIOS version is indeed 0501 found on this page.

http://support.asus.com/download.asp...lGHLJGJPFfGCFA

Do you think I should update it?

Also, after googling a bit, it seems like CUPTIN is irrelevant and doesn't provide reliable information on CPU temps. ASUS probe says it doesn't support this model.

Thanks!
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18-Jun-2012, 08:42 AM #8
I do not know what you mean by asus probe is not supported; it is available as a download on the site for your board. Under utilities>asus suite. Here is the link for the download site for your board.
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Int...Z68V/#download

As to the bios update, up to you. Your board is running the release or first bios and the updates do address stability issues. If you decide to update the bios make SURE you read and fully understand the update procedure. While a bios update is not difficult, an incorrect or corrupted update can render your board unbootable ie junk.

FWIW the only procedure I use to update a bios on an asus board is ezflash. This is done from within the bios and is almost foolproof.
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18-Jun-2012, 01:31 PM #9
Thanks. I think I'll update BIOS if there are now downsides in doing that. I noticed I already have Asus Suite and with it, Asus Probe. The suite offers a BIOS update via the program. Should I use that?

Also, could you advice me how to copy the temperature data here from Asus Probe.

Thanks a lot buddy.
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20-Jun-2012, 04:10 PM #10
Ok, I successfully updated BIOS to version 3402. The problem persists. Should I try a complete driver clean install with this http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html, or do you have other ideas?
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20-Jun-2012, 08:46 PM #11
The nvidia driver has an option to do a clean install however it does not hurt to use a driver cleaner before installing the driver. Do be careful since some of these I have seen also have options to remove other drivers ie chipset, etc.
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21-Jun-2012, 03:51 AM #12
Just to confirm that it is exactly that clean install that I have to do to fix the problem after reboot. A normal reinstall won't do it.
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21-Jun-2012, 09:29 AM #13
I am out of ideas as to your problem. You can post a hijack log in the security form and have it scanned for any malware/virus.

When you did the install, you did install your chipset and RST drivers before attempting any video driver install correct?
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21-Jun-2012, 10:52 PM #14
after updating the bios did you then re-optimise it as it would have left it default settings


in the device manager uninstall the video card
reboot tapping f8 and choose low resolution mode
when windows finishes rebooting
disable a/virus
install your drivers
reboot the computer
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Hi dai

Thanks for the reply. Could you give a more detailed description as to the steps I should to do the thing you said. I have difficulties understanding your instructions unambiguously.

Thanks!
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