[hi!]

I'm new to this and i will be getting a DVD Recorder player soon. What is the difference between the two? and also DVD-R means i can't tape over it right? Only DVD-RW means i can record over it?

and how come there is big prices differences between the DVD-R's? isn't it all the same? the price jump can be a 2 dollar difference per DVD!! Should i avoid certain cheap DVD'S? thanks!

[angelize56]

This might help you! Take care! angel

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvd

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Arti...bility%20Tests

[buddhafabio]

this is how angel gets a tech rating

[compilerxp]

Reasons like this is why the DVD-+R market is moving so slow.

But they are getting cheap at about $200.

[hi!]

Originally posted by compilerxp:
Reasons like this is why the DVD-+R market is moving so slow.

But they are getting cheap at about $200.

hello.. no not a DVD Cdrom.. i am getting a DVD Recordable Player, it's like a DVD Player that can record too.. they still run from $500 to $400.. i wish i can get it for $200!!

[compilerxp]

oh... well... nevermind!!

I really like the PANASONIC, it has great features and excellent quality. The only THING I really HATE about it is...

TOTAL LACK of COMPONENT INPUTS!! GEEZ!! Not even their $900 model has that. (Panasonic makes about 5 difference models, not including 2 color versions (Silver or black).

Even crummy GE has a DVD-RW unit that has this feature!

[Alex Ethridge]

The -R format is generally what stand-alone players like the ones that connect to your TV use. Usually, it has envelope format on one side and TV format on the other. The +R is just another format, usually not readable in the previously-mentioned, stand-alone players. (At least that is my understanding.)

In computers, the -R burners can write to -R disks on both sides and can consequently hold twice the data. You cannot do that with a +R disk.

Whan getting a burner for a computer, I favor the burners that can do both formats.

[compilerxp]

I could be wrong, but I think the differnce between -R and +R is that you have two CAMPS of companies supporting one or the other... SONY vs JVC for example. They hold simular amounts of data - but are recorded differently.

BUT, DVD deck Players can now READ both -R & +R discs as does the Recorders - even IF they can only RECORD in one format, so it makes it kinda moot... but still lits confusing to bother having both formats.

[Alex Ethridge]

compilerxp,

I will concede you are right about most of what you've written because when you put it all together, I don't know much about this; but, there is one thing I am certain of (which might not make any difference to hi! in his case). The storage capacity of the -R disk is twice that of a +R disk because it can be written on both sides.

For someone like myself, that is a significant difference, expecially since my primary use is data storage--twice as much data in the same physical space is just too good to pass up.

[compilerxp]

If you look on the link, provided by angelize56 (good job)
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvd (Most excellent and straight forward info - lots of it too).

Both -R & +R support double sided discs. The differences between the two is very minor... its more of a stupid issue betweeen two GROUPS in the industry (With Pioneer being the 3rd).

For the most part, I'm not a believer in double sided media (as does the industry) because it is difficult to MARK what the disc is... when you don't have a whole side to work with. So even with DVD movies, I don't care for such discs.

ANYWAYS.... With the BLUE laser developed by Toshiba - that can change the market quickly... so instead of a 9GB double sided DVD disc - you can HAVE a 25GB single SIDED disc!!

This is needed to make TRUE HD-TV quality DVDs.

[Alex Ethridge]

compilerxp,

Please post links to documentation that +R media and +R format supports two-sided writing. If I can see this, I may go for a cheaper +R burner so I really need to know.

http://www.dvdirect.com/TSS/charts/DVDFormats.htm
In the above link, scroll down to the section entitled Pros and Cons of the Different DVD Formats

[compilerxp]

...?????

*I* just did... re read my post. Anelize56 provided - shes the first responder to this thread.

[Alex Ethridge]

Thanks for the documentation. I still have a problem with it, though. I did some checking today at BestBuy. Two-sided -R media is readily available. Two-sided +R media was not. So, I may still want to stick with a dual-format burner just for that reason.

This is the first I've seen on two-sided +R. I wonder why all the sites I've seen so far seem to ignore this fact? (just thinking out loud) It sure seems significant enough to me to garner at least a mention.

[compilerxp]

Well... its these confusing reasons WHY the DVD-RW market is in such shambles. Notice they show different levels of compatiblity as well. Oh well. Im in no hurry.

[Davey7549]

For more information........
Here is a bit more research I did summer of 2002 concerning DVD burners and formats available which may explain why there is disarray in the industry. Mind you this is summer of last year so some has changed.

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Now for DVD Burners........
There are two main schools of thoughts which direction DVD burners are heading.
1) DVD-RW and DVD-R and
2) DVD+RW and DVD+R
There are significant differences between the two and two major groups that are vying over which format is actually going to become the industry standard. The two groups are:
1) DVD-RW DVD-R DVD Forum
2) DVD+RW DVD+R DVD+RW Alliance
If you do research as to the best DVD burner to purchase and the format it supports a good place to start is VCDHelp

Through my research I have found that the DVD+RW Aliance is gaining allot of momentum and has accumulated many high profile companies in support of its formats. Recently Microsoft joined the bandwagon by announcing they are going to incorporate DVD+RW technology into their next generation OS for Backing up systems. I believe this announcement may be the final nail in the coffin for DVD-RW technology. If you review the advantages of DVD+RW to DVD-RW you will see the +RW is hands above. Again the laundry list of major manufacturers Support is growing significantly in the DVD+RW DVD+R area.
There are several DVD+RW recorders on the market today and many more in the mill. Bare in mind the Sister to DVD+RW is DVD+R and some of the first generation DVD+RW recorders do not support DVD+R and there is no planned upgrade of these older units.
If I were a betting man I would place my money on DVD+RW+R technology winning out and my plan is to purchase a DVD+RW DVD+R unit. I would stay away from the first generation DVD+RW units because they are not upgradable to support DVD+R.

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Hope that gets you going in your research.

Dave