[JStergis]

The only time I crank my system up is when I'm playing with it.

Once and a while it's fun to put the pedal to the metal and see just what the system can do.

Mine can do quite a lot, so I guess it's good that I live in hillbillyland, since I can here my system well over 1/4 mile down the road and faintly at 1/2 mile. literally.

[wacor]

Originally Posted by JStergis

The only time I crank my system up is when I'm playing with it.

Once and a while it's fun to put the pedal to the metal and see just what the system can do.

Mine can do quite a lot, so I guess it's good that I live in hillbillyland, since I can here my system well over 1/4 mile down the road and faintly at 1/2 mile. literally.

About ten years ago I bought the stereo amp of my dreams so to speak.

I blew out my speakers the first night which i thought were pretty decent.

They were not rated so I ended up buying some high end speakers.

My ears now ring continually so I tend to think about what i am doing first.

When I was your age i would have laughed about damaging ears. I will predict with IPODS and the like we will have a generation of people worse off than me. I am only 52 and i cringe at the thought how bad my hearing will be if l live another 30 plus years

[kiwiguy]

High sound levels (especially bass levels, as extremely high sound energy is dissipated) is proven to be a present, future and growing problem with the younger generation, many of whom will have significant hearing loss at middle age.

20 years ago, nobody had the money or the technology to have such high intensity low frequency sources, such as todays subwoofers and incredibly ear damaging in-car systems.

Damage takes place gradually though so they keep on winding it up....

[griffinspc]

I'm wondering, is he talking about a stereo connected subwoofer or a PC connected subwoofer and does he play music through it or PC games, or both?

[SKreme]

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Right now I am using it with my ipod but I plan on plugging it into my desktop soon. I have been learning about hearing loss and try to keep things turned down. However, once in a while I will turn a movie or music up. I try to be considerate of my neighbors so I never do this late at night. I have no idea whether they can hear it even when I turn it up since it is on carpeting but I would rather not experiment with that so I try not to put it directly on the floor. That's why I want to put it on top of the tower. I think at this point I will take your suggestions and put it on some cork or a brick sitting on the floor.
kiwiguy- Is bass really worse for you then music with the bass turned down even if they are on the same volume level?

[griffinspc]

OK, one more hint then, suspend it. Bass is emitted in an arc as you probably know where high end is directional. You can sometimes get very good loading and therefore quality sound by suspending the bass a few inches away from a corner. It doesn't have to be in front of you. The suspension will keep direct passage through the floor to a minimum. The corner will allow you to get the harmonics at a lower volume level (DB level). If it doesn't work you're out nothing.

[kiwiguy]

Originally Posted by SKreme

kiwiguy- Is bass really worse for you then music with the bass turned down even if they are on the same volume level?

All high intensity noise is damaging, but because the "audible" range of the bass is usually also well below the hearing range, you can "feel" it more than hear it.

So the energy levels are VERY high in order for a human to be able to perceive it, this will still cause hearing damage however. Just because it's slightly below the audible range does not mean it's not harmful. It's called "infrasound".

Look here as a general example:
http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchiv...ry=tp3ch18.htm

[TRS-80 vet]

Originally Posted by griffinspc

OK, one more hint then, suspend it. Bass is emitted in an arc as you probably know where high end is directional. You can sometimes get very good loading and therefore quality sound by suspending the bass a few inches away from a corner. It doesn't have to be in front of you. The suspension will keep direct passage through the floor to a minimum. The corner will allow you to get the harmonics at a lower volume level (DB level). If it doesn't work you're out nothing.

This idea is better than sheet cork - IF SUSPENDED WITH A SPRING. Finding an appropriate spring will not be an easy task...

[brite750]

yeah suspend it from the ceiling so that the vibration will loosen up the achor bolt and the whole thing will fall on your head, or the ceiling will collapse and you get to meet your upstairs neighbors.

[griffinspc]

This idea is better than sheet cork - IF SUSPENDED WITH A SPRING. Finding an appropriate spring will not be an easy task...

No, no spring. A common house plant holder works, I've done it. Hate the look of that stringy stuff but hey, sounds are more important than looks.

yeah suspend it from the ceiling so that the vibration will loosen up the achor bolt and the whole thing will fall on your head, or the ceiling will collapse and you get to meet your upstairs neighbors.

Oh yee of little faith. The braided ugly cord absorbs all vibration and haven't you heard of studs? Oh I suppose if he's talking about dual back to back 12" woofers in a single enclosure maybe but he was going to set it on his PC. It can't be that big !!!

[TRS-80 vet]

Originally Posted by griffinspc

No, no spring.
The braided ugly cord absorbs all vibration !!!

Yes, spring.

I, and Alexander Graham Bell, must disagree on cords absorbing vibration. I don't know what kind of cans he used, but I'm glad the string carried the voice vibration from his can, to his assistant's can.

I didn't get the same satisfaction (or patent) when I did it as a kid, as when he did.

Yup, spring.

[JohnWill]

Bell used wire, and it's a good thing. Imagine where we'd be if all our phones used tin cans and strings.

[Moby]

You could always go downstairs and ask your neighbour if it's too loud when you turn it up?
If he's says "what?"
It probably is.

[griffinspc]

Imagine where we'd be if all our phones used tin cans and strings.

And imagine if he added springs how many emergency room visits you'd have for dismembered ears.