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12-Apr-2009, 11:32 PM #1
Macrosvsion HELP VHS
I have:

Usb 2.0 TV tuner: TV BOX
it comes with the cd: WIN DVR 3 as the software

a hitatchi video camera

i want to record all my old VHS home videos and i was successfuly until i come to an error message saying
"cannot Record to macrovison protect.

How can i get around this ?

BTW I AM NOT TRYING TO COPY A VHS I BOUGHT OR W/E.... I WANT TO TURN MY VIDEO FILES FROM MY CAMCORDER TO DVD.

i have also tried many different software to record it and i have tried it on windows xp and vista

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13-Apr-2009, 01:03 AM #2
Macrovision is a the copy protection scheme found on many commercial VHS tapes. It is designed to prevent the use of hardware such as dual-cassette VHS players, to copy movies which are copyrighted. Unfortunately, helping you to "get around this" is not only illegal, but it's against forum rules. So is asking for help on this issue. Now that you know, you probably shouldn't ask again.

You can't copy those tapes because the copyright owners do not want you to, and that's not what you paid for. You paid for ONE VHS copy of the movie and that's what you got. If you want them in any other form such as DVD you will have to buy them again on DVD if they are available. Amazon.com is great for this. I have paid as little as $5 (including shipping) there (for Last Action Hero) to get DVD versions of my old VHS tapes. It's a lot easier than trying to copy from VHS and the quality of a copy from analogue VHS to digital is pretty lousy anyway.
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13-Apr-2009, 02:49 AM #3
First how is that illegal ? and y is it agaisnt the rules?

I bough the tv caputture device and i have a camcorder with my personal video's that i want to convert to files on my computer, so i can put them on a dvd to watch on my dvd player because i cannot view them any other way .
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13-Apr-2009, 03:10 AM #4
More information about macrovision can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrovision

Here is a small excerpt from that article:

"USB-based video interfaces designed to allow DVD recording on PCs are legally required to detect the presence of Macrovision signals on any analog signals input to them, and if so, inhibit the recording.

The MPAA maintains it has every right to limit copying of movies, comparing DVDs to pay-per-view where the consumer is allowed to view the movie in question but nothing more. Many are concerned that the organization is attempting to quash fair use by disallowing consumers to make personal copies."

Your personal videos that you created, are obviously not subject to copyright laws, and do not contain copy protection measures, so they will work just fine. Commercially purchased movies are subject to copy laws and most DO have copy protection, such as Macrovision.
Here is how "getting around" copy protection is illegal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-circumvention

And, lastly, it's against the forum rules to ask and/or assist with such activity because it is illegal and could get the forum shut down. Here's the rules: http://www.techguy.org/rules.html

There are many forums out on the internet, not subject to these laws, where you can discuss just about any illegal activity that you want to. This forum isn't one of them. Keep in mind that the authorities can read these forums just like anyone else, so revealing your identity, and then admitting to illegal activities can get you into trouble.

I'm not judging you or your actions, I just think that the more you know, the better. I hope that answers your questions.
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13-Apr-2009, 03:27 AM #5
With all that said above, If you want to provide a list of movies that you have on VHS, and want to get them on DVD, I would be willing to do the searching for you and find the absolute cheapest way for you to get them on legal DVD's. It's cheaper than you might think to get those old movies on legal DVD's and it's way better quality than copying from VHS.
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13-Apr-2009, 10:26 AM #6
There are many sites with macrovision topics..I found this quote from another site interesting.

"How and Why is This on My Home Movies

The fact is it's not on your tapes, you would have to pay a fee to license this to place it on tapes. Macrovision should in no way affect the capture of your home videos. The kick in the teeth is your capture device thinks that they are copy protected. VHS tapes deteriorate over time. They develop video errors, these errors can be interpreted or detected by capture cards as copy protection producing an unusable useless capture. The ATI card is not the only device this false detection will affect, it can happen on practically any device capable of analog capture including camcorder's with passthough and DVD recorders."
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13-Apr-2009, 02:01 PM #7
you guys don't understand me very well.... i'll try to explain it better:

I have a usb capture device with USB output and have yellow RCA input.
I connect my video camcorder (THAT I BOUGHT) .. and connected it to that so i can record the family video's i have recorded on the camcorder, so i can put them on a dvd for personal use.

I cannot transfer the recorded stuff on my camcorder, because it is old and uses those old small tapes or w.e.

The problem is that.. when i bought that thing. I cannoectd it to my camera and it had worked. I recoreded about a tape and a half when it stoped and said "cannot record due to marcovison protect" ...

why would it say that if i bought:

the tv capture thing
Camcorder
Personal tapes in the camcorder

so why would they do that because i am copying my personal videos?
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13-Apr-2009, 05:59 PM #8
I think accat13 probably answered that question before you asked it. See his post above. Sorry, I missed the part where you said these were home movies. I thought you were trying to copy commercial VHS movies. Duh. Now I feel stupid.

You know, I've never had any luck transferring movies from my camcorder, even when I follow all instructions for doing so. The only time it ever worked for me, the copies came out so dark I couldn't see what was going on. And I was using an actual TV tuner card in my computer to receive the camcorder input.
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13-Apr-2009, 06:37 PM #9
Oh, Okay thanks for your help.. so i;ll just go back to tiger adn return it because it is useless now.
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13-Apr-2009, 06:54 PM #10
I had good luck with my wedding video's and (were on vhs) and old home movies (on 8mm tape)...With my hauppauge pvr150.Its a little dated now.I'm sure they have an updated version.Not sure about the device your using.But the most important thing is what ever device you use, it should do its own encoding for the best results...
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13-Apr-2009, 07:08 PM #11
If the device won't do the job, it's pretty useless to you, that's for sure. I'm no expert so I can't say exactly what the problem is with capturing home videos. It should work, but if it doesn't, there's no point in being stuck with useless hardware.
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