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11-Jul-2003, 10:22 AM #1
Angry Electronic Vote Fraud and the Republican Party
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This article is too large and complex to post in it's entirety.
If vote fraud concerns you, read this and reflect on electronic ballot machines and who makes them.




http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00064.htm



Sludge Report #154 ? Bigger Than Watergate!
Tuesday, 8 July 2003, 6:13 pm
Column: C.D. Sludge

In This Edition: Bigger Than Watergate! - How To Rig An Election In The United States - Fantasy vs Reality - How We Discovered The Backdoor - Evidence Of Motive - Evidence Of Opportunity - Evidence Of Method - Evidence Of Prior Conduct - Consistent Unexplained Circumstantial Evidence


Bigger Than Watergate!

The story you are about to read is in this writer's view the biggest political scandal in American history, if not global history. And it is being broken today here in New Zealand.

This story cuts to the bone the machinery of democracy in America today. Democracy is the only protection we have against despotic and arbitrary government, and this story is deeply disturbing.

Imagine if you will that you are a political interest group that wishes to control forevermore the levers of power. Imagine further that you know you are likely to implement a highly unpopular political agenda, and you do not wish to be removed by a ballot driven backlash.

One way to accomplish this outcome would be to adopt the Mugabe (Zimbabwe) or Hun Sen (Cambodia) approach. You agree to hold elections, but simultaneously arrest, imprison and beat your opponents and their supporters. You stuff ballot boxes, disenfranchise voters who are unlikely to vote for you, distort electoral boundaries and provide insufficient polling stations in areas full of opposition supporters.

However as so many despots have discovered, eventually such techniques always fail ? often violently. Hence, if you are a truly ambitious political dynasty you have to be a bit more subtle about your methods.

Imagine then if it were possible to somehow subvert the voting process itself in such a way that you could steal elections without anybody knowing.

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If this concerns you, read the rest at:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00064.htm
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11-Jul-2003, 03:54 PM #2
Very intersting!
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12-Jul-2003, 07:43 AM #3
Hi bassetman!

Guess there won't be any challenges in Florida(or any where else) with this method of vote fraud in place

Just enter the wining results you want and steal the office.

Less mess , no dangling chads winding up on the floor
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I really have a good laugh when some of the republican people come on here and say that others do not understand and that there way is right!
Whaaaa

Or calls us a liberal!

What a laugh!

I am not a liberal or do I belong to any set faction of the world

If anything I am a realist!

I know alot more about the truth than most, but I choose to remain mostly quiet

Another thing that cracks me up is the quit your whining stuff
Yah, why don't we just sit back and let it all go to Heck! LoL
The republicans are counting on that!

Or the classical Change it and quit whining!

It is perplexing to me how a republican thinks!
Dog eat dog?

With all of the liberal accusations in here, I thought this was a good time to tell them that they are full of beans!

No flame wars please!

Let's get em Stoner!

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12-Jul-2003, 02:07 PM #5
Disclaimer : THIS IS A JOKE!!

A popular bar had a new robotic bartender installed.

A guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him, "What's your IQ"?

The man replied, "130".

So the robot proceeded to make conversation about physics, astronomy, investments, insurance, and so on.

The man listened intently and thought, "This is really cool".

Another guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him, "What's your IQ?"

The man responded, "100."

So the robot started talking about the football, baseball and so on.

The man thought to himself, "Wow, this is really cool".

A third guy came in to the bar. As with the others, the robot asked him,
"What's your IQ?"

The man replied, "70".

The robot then said, "So, what's the Democratic Party up to these days?"

couldn't resist !...Rhett
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LMAO

Republican Party = Believe half of what you see and NONE of what you hear!!!!


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12-Jul-2003, 02:11 PM #7
Good one Rhett
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I'll use it, but I think I'll alter it a wee bit!
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You left out the last punch line:


The man replied, "30".

The robot then said, "So, you and George Bush were roommates?"
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12-Jul-2003, 03:37 PM #10
I'm sorry..................everytime Bush's intelligence factor comes up I keep seeing visions like this:

"I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." ——George W. Bush, aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003




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25-Jul-2003, 05:19 AM #11
More on Diebold
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/business/6381122.htm

Group challenges voting software
Flaws found; Diebold says old code studied
By John Russell
Beacon Journal business writer

Diebold Inc.'s fastest growing business, touch-screen voting machines, is coming under attack from a group of computer scientists at two large universities for what they call ``significant and wide-reaching security vulnerabilities'' that could affect election results.

A single voter, using a homemade ``smart card,'' could fraudulently cast hundreds of votes, according to a 24-page study by researchers at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and Rice University in Houston.

Poll workers and outsiders also could distort election results by deleting votes, tampering with counts or delaying the start of an election, the study said.

``It's astonishing how many different ways there are for people to compromise this software,'' Dan S. Wallach, assistant professor of computer science at Rice University, said in an interview Thursday.

Officials at Diebold, based in Green, responded in a statement that they believe the researchers evaluated an outdated code that was never used in an actual election.

The company, however, acknowledged that the code the researchers studied shares ``similarities to the current code'' used in its machines.

``While respecting the report, we reserve judgment on the researchers' fundamental conclusions,'' Diebold's statement said.

Diebold said the researchers never called them for comment.

The researchers at Johns Hopkins and Rice said they analyzed the software after running across unencrypted source code that appeared on the Internet. They said they believed the code was used in Diebold's AccuVote-TS voting terminal.

In their paper, the researchers admit they have not independently verified current or past use of the code by Diebold, or even that the code they analyzed was actually Diebold code. But they said the code is consistent with publicly available systems offered by Diebold.

Diebold also pointed out that researchers focused only on the software code, and ``overlooked the total system of software, hardware services and poll worker training that have made Diebold electronic voting systems so effective in real-world implementations.''

Diebold officials did not return phone calls to the Akron Beacon Journal to comment further.

The company, better known for its automated teller machines and security systems, got into the voting business within the last two years. It acquired the technology of Global Election Systems of McKinney, Texas, for $40 million early last year. Since then, the company has supplied more than 50,000 electronic voting units in Georgia, California, Maryland and other states.

The voting business last year accounted for $111 million, or less than 6 percent of Diebold's $1.94 billion in sales. But Diebold is projecting the voting business to grow by as much as 25 percent this year, compared with overall revenue growth of less than 10 percent.

Analysts have called touch-screen voting a hot industry, estimated to grow by as much as $2 billion over the next five years. That's because elections officials around the country are upgrading their voting systems from paper and punch cards to high-tech systems to avoid a repeat of the 2000 presidential election fiasco, in which thousands of ballots were improperly punched, throwing the results into doubt for more than a month.

No Ohio county has used the Diebold system yet, although Lucas County has recently received shipment of them and plans to use them in the near future, a spokesman for the Ohio Secretary of State's office said Thursday.

The researchers attacked many aspects of the software -- most notably, perhaps, the danger of multiple voting by voters. The researchers said voters could easily program their own smart cards -- the electronic cards issued by poll workers that allow voters to use the touch-screen machines.

``You can buy programmable smart cards,'' Wallach said. ``They're a couple bucks each. It might be hard to customize the cards if you're not a (computer) wizard. But you really don't have to be a wizard, you just have to know one who will hand you a card.''

The story, first reported in the New York Times on Thursday, caused a public relations challenge. Shares in Diebold fell about 2 percent Thursday, or 97 cents, closing at $43.28.
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07-Aug-2003, 06:31 AM #12
More about Diebold.



http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,...20Firm%2008-07


New Security Woes for E-Vote Firm



By Brian McWilliams | Also by this reporter Page 1 of 1


02:00 AM Aug. 07, 2003 PT

Following an embarrassing leak of its proprietary software over a file transfer protocol site last January, the inner workings of Diebold Election Systems have again been laid bare.

A hacker has come forward with evidence that he broke the security of a private Web server operated by the embattled e-vote vendor, and made off last spring with Diebold's internal discussion-list archives, a software bug database and more software.



The unidentified attacker provided Wired News with an archive containing 1.8 GB of files apparently taken March 2 from a site referred to by the Ohio-based company as its "staff website."

Representatives of Diebold Election Systems, one of the largest electronic voting systems vendors with more than 33,000 machines in service around the country, said the company is still investigating the security breach and reviewing the contents of the archive.

Director of Communications John Kristoff said the stolen files contained "sensitive" information, but he said Diebold is confident that the company's electronic voting system software has not been tampered with.

"Thus far we haven't seen anything that would be of use to anyone trying to affect the outcome of an election," he said.

But experts said the appearance of the archive of purloined files from the staff site raises new questions about Diebold's attention to the security of its intellectual property.

"They claim they keep everything secure, but this shows the lax nature of their procedures. This just blatantly flies in the face of good security," said Rebecca Mercuri, a computer science professor at Bryn Mawr College who opposes the use of electronic voting systems.

The anonymous attacker said he broke into the Diebold staff site, which was located at https://staff.dieboldes.com, after reading in January about how unauthorized outsiders had copied source code and documentation from an insecure FTP site operated by the company at the Internet address ftp://ftp.gesn.com.

"In a few short minutes I had access to their replacement for the FTP site, their 'secure' web," wrote the hacker.

Last month, researchers at Johns Hopkins University used source code from the FTP site to publish an analysis of what they claimed were serious security problems in Diebold's AccuVote-TS voting terminal. Diebold attempted last week to rebut (PDF) the researchers' charges.

The archive of internal Diebold Election Systems mailing lists taken from the staff site includes thousands of messages dating from January 1999 through March 2003. The lists contained internal company discussions of product support issues, new software announcements and general company announcements.

"We do not believe there is any real security threat, but perception matters a great deal in this business!" wrote Pat Green, Diebold Election Systems' director of research and development, in a Feb. 7 message to the company's "support" discussion list. Green was announcing the temporary shutdown of the Diebold staff site.

Two days before, on Feb. 5, activist Bev Harris detailed in an article at New Zealand news site called Scoop how she had freely accessed thousands of files from Diebold's FTP server.

The hacker did not reveal how he subsequently breached the security of the Diebold staff site, which used SSL encryption. The file archive included source code to a login page that included a March 2 welcome message to one of the firm's election support specialists, suggesting the attacker may have compromised the employee's account.

Judging from internal mailing list discussions, Diebold management was either unaware of proper information security practices, or chose to ignore them out of expediency, experts said.

"There is no sane reason to put the corporate jewels on an Internet-facing server. They were basically asking to be hacked," said Jeff Stutzman, CEO of ZNQ3, a provider of information security services. "This is the kind of behavior you expect of a startup company that's only concerned about selling their first product."

But Kristoff said the staff server housed only compiled, executable programs, and not the raw source code to Diebold's election systems. He said it was "an oversight" that source code was available to the public from the FTP server in January.

The Diebold discussion-list archives included other warnings of potential security problems. In May 2000, Diebold Election Systems' systems engineer manager Talbot Iredale posted a message to the support list chiding employees for placing software files on the special "customer" section of the FTP site without password-protecting them. That section of the site was created for delivering program updates and other files to election officials and other customers.

"This potentially gives the software away to whom ever (sic) wants it," wrote Iredale.

On Dec. 2 last year, Diebold Election Systems' webmaster Joshua Gardner announced to the list that the FTP site finally was being eliminated and replaced by the staff site. Gardner explained that the FTP site had been "accessible to the outside world with no restrictions on access, and no provisions for logging user activity. FTP was a security risk, and I have shut it down for this reason."

Yet nearly eight weeks later, Internet users apparently still were able to access the FTP site without a password and to download proprietary software and manuals.

Kristoff said Diebold has shut down the FTP and staff sites, and the company no longer provides customers or field personnel with access to Diebold software over the Internet. Instead, software and proprietary data has been distributed by CD-ROM since January, he said.

Even if unauthorized individuals were able to access and modify voting system source code, some e-voting experts downplay the impact of such theoretical threats. After the earlier problems at Diebold's FTP site, Brit Williams of the Center for Election Systems at Kennesaw State University published a report last April noting (PDF) that some states, such as Georgia, carefully review source code prior to use in electronic voting systems.

But Stutzman said Diebold's Internet security problems necessitate that the company hire a "Big Five-caliber" firm to conduct a thorough inspection of its software code, and to insure that malicious outsiders have not tampered with it.

"To gain credibility back, they … have to do a line-by-line audit to make sure that their intellectual property is still sound," said Stutzman.
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http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinio...-8778055c.html

Can America trust electronic voting?
Much clout, no regulation for big firms
By Freddie Oakley and John Oakley -- Special to The Bee
Published 2:15 a.m. PST Sunday, November 23, 2003
The recall election allowed California voters to express fundamental dissatisfaction with the status quo. That's democracy in action. But we should not take it for granted.
Coming to light now are serious concerns about the rush to adopt electronic voting systems, and why this may threaten the way our democracy works in the future.

The reliability of California's voting systems was seriously questioned during the recall campaign. Some counties were caught in a transition between discredited punch-card ballot systems and new-wave systems that supposedly would put worries about how ballots are counted -- and which ballots are counted -- to rest for good.

In everyone's mind was Florida's botched conduct of the 2000 presidential election. In reaction to that disaster, Congress last year passed and President Bush signed the Help America Vote Act (HAVA). It was not in effect when the California recall election took place. But it soon will be, and it seeks to make sure that the rights of voters nationwide are not compromised by shoddy local voting systems.

This is not the first time the federal government has sought to reform how elections are conducted at the local level. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 barred a variety of corrupt impediments to participation by racial minorities in the exercise of the franchise -- poll taxes, literacy tests and the like. Later amendments refined this approach to bar more subtle methods of reducing the influence in elections of minority voters. But what is unique is the fact that HAVA combines federal standards with federal financial subsidies of local voting systems.

HAVA has set off a gold rush. Not a rush by local voting officials to meet some new gold standard of voting reliability and security. No, a gold rush by special interests and their lobbyists, joined by the entrenched local bureaucrats who are the natural prey of public-contract profiteers. Where is ex-Sen. William Proxmire and his "golden-fleece" award when we need him? The fleece is flying in capitals and county seats across the country.

The special interests are large voting-machine manufacturers who, through their lobbyists, worked hard to make sure that states and their counties were required to make huge purchases of new voting equipment, funded in part by Congress but subject to virtually no congressional standards of quality.

What has resulted is a set of uncritical mandates heavily weighted in favor of the local purchase of untested and unreliable electronic voting systems, supported by large federal subsidies of your tax dollars -- or rather borrowed dollars that future taxpayers will eventually have to pay off, with interest.

Election officials nationwide failed to demand that HAVA include meaningful regulation of voting-system manufacturers and vendors. Congressional staff were apparently persuaded that the mere application of electronic technology would be sufficient to protect the security of the right to vote, and the integrity of elections.

But this is at best a willing suspension of disbelief, a confusion of the difference between hope for the future, and money in the bank.

At worst the rush towards unregulated, federally subsidized purchases of unreliable new voting equipment may reflect yet another instance of "regulatory capture," where regulators become beholden to the industry they are supposed to be policing. The major voting-systems manufacturers and vendors wield close to monopoly power, having swallowed up most of their smaller competitors. This makes the major manufacturers and vendors the equivalent of public utilities, offering vital services virtually free of competition.

And this makes official regulation all the more important. So these supposedly regulated companies open their doors and their payrolls to the regulators themselves, making it a practice to hire former election officials, from state secretaries of state on down to state and county executives.

The company that prints most of the paper ballots for California elections, Sequoia Printing, is a division of De La Rue, an English company that also own Sequoia Voting Systems, one of the large manufacturers and vendors of touch-screen voting machines. This English company thus services a huge portion of the voting supply market in California.

As the Los Angeles Times reported on Nov. 10, former California Secretary of State Bill Jones is now a paid consultant to Sequoia. As secretary of state until 2003, he regulated the company's voting related services; now he works for them.

So does his former press officer, Alfie Charles. According to the Times, Charles has said of their new positions, "It's no different than anyone in the election business. You learn from your experience." Jones' former chief of technology certification, Lou Dedier, now manages California operations for one of the other big companies, Election Systems and Software (ES&S). Dedier denies any conflict. "I'm shocked at the idea of anything being said of inappropriate behavior," he was quoted as saying in an Oct. 31 article in The Bee.

Diebold is the third company of the Big Three that are poised to control American election technology. Diebold employs Deborah Seiler, who was chief of elections under California Secretary of State March Fong Eu.

It is Diebold's president, heavy-hitting Bush contributor Walden O'Dell, who stated in an Aug. 14 fund-raising letter to Ohio Republicans: "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." O'Dell has since stated that he regrets the wording in the letter: "I can see it now, but I never imagined that people could say that just because you've got a political favorite that you might commit this treasonous felony atrocity to change the outcome of an election."

From our perspectives, as the chief elections official of Yolo County, and as a scholar of the constitutional law of federal-state relations, the implementation of HAVA reminds us of an old caution: Don't throw out the baby of honest and accurate tallying of election returns along with the bathwater of poorly managed elections and unreliable punch card voting systems.

In their haste to introduce supposedly easy-to-use and easy-to-administer voting systems, the members of Congress responsible for HAVA, as well as the local officials rushing to spend their HAVA dollars, have seemingly been dazzled by the shiny buttons and blinking lights of touch-screen computerized machines. Yet these machines are programmed with computer code far beyond the technical knowledge possessed by ourselves or any voting official we know -- computer code that is indeed secret, its secrecy closely guarded as the proprietary intellectual property of the machines' manufacturers.

These machines leave no "paper trail," that is, no voter-verifiable record allowing a retrospective audit of the votes recorded as cast for each candidate or ballot proposition. In the words of Kim Alexander, president of the California Voter Foundation: "We are all in way over our heads."

As most of these touch-screen systems are designed, the machine will "record" your "vote" electronically in as many as three different places, but you the voter will never know what the machine recorded. It's on the hard drive, maybe. It's on a flashcard, maybe.

It's somewhere else, maybe. Wherever it is, you cannot see it, cannot verify it and cannot be sure that it will remain recorded. The old-fashioned concept of a ballot box filled with ballots that voters have checked and verified before casting -- a ballot box with a lock on it that gets a sheriff's escort to the counting room at the local elections office, not to be tampered with at pain of felony charges -- that quaint system of physical security of physically marked ballots will be gone.

Should there be an occasion to recount the votes, officials will print out an image from the electronic "tally." And we will see whatever report of the votes cast that the machine was programmed to show us. California voting officials who have embraced these systems insist that it is appropriate to respect the expertise of the vendors, trusting in their judgment and having faith in their abilities to program these machines properly.

If the machines are misused, they assert, it can only be because of malign interference. Well, it seems to us that in these perilous times times malign interference is a very real threat.

California's secretary of state, Kevin Shelley, apparently shares our concerns. We sent him a copy of this article Thursday. On Friday he announced new standards requiring electronic voting machines purchased after July 1, 2005, to produce a voter-verified paper trail. Moreover, to the consternation of counties that have already purchased equipment that does not have this capability, he announced that this new standard would be applied retroactively, as of July 1, 2006, to previously purchased voting systems.

That's progress, but it still leaves in place for two more election cycles the very voting systems we condemn. And it does nothing, now or in the future, to ensure that electronic voting systems can't be hacked into.

Tougher standards for these systems will cost more money. In all likelihood the present generation of unreliable electronic voting systems will have to be junked, or expensively rebuilt to meet the higher standards we're calling for. So it's important to understand what's wrong with these systems, which should never have been permitted to be sold in California in the first place.

The great exemplar of electronic voting is electronic banking. We are told that anything that automated teller machines (ATMs) can do, electronic voting machines can do as well, and no less reliably. Pause to consider that proposition. ATMs have become commonplace because of the savings in labor costs (bye-bye, live tellers).

This is the result of a strictly dollars-and-cents cost/benefit analysis. ATMs do make mistakes, and are vulnerable to fraud. But so long as the cost of fraud and mistakes is less than the savings generated by dispensing funds through robots instead of humans, ATMs are profitable.

Are you persuaded that we should permit use of ATM-like electronic voting systems, on the theory that their vulnerability to fraud and mistake is outweighed by the appearance of precision and the generation of virtually instant vote totals once the polls close? We're not.

Dollars and cents are "commensurable." A bank doesn't care if it loses $200 to a hacker who makes unauthorized withdrawals, so long as it gains back something more than $200 in cost savings from using the ATM that the hacker attacked. There is no difference except in amount between the dollars lost and the dollars gained. Their value is commensurable.

But there is no such commensurability between the false vote tallies that electronic voting systems might yield when things go badly, and the benefits of speed and efficiency that they might offer when things go well.

So the ATM analogy fails. The stakes are higher when it comes to electronic voting, and the gains promised can't offset the compromises of electoral integrity that we fear. We simply lack the knowledge base that would permit our election officials to set up and administer dependable, trustworthy electronic voting systems that are based on vendor-owned proprietary control systems which are vulnerable to hackers, and leave no voter-verified record.

Especially not when you consider that some major vendors have been so sloppy with security that their "top-secret" computer code and a bunch of sensitive internal communications were discovered on and copied from publicly accessible Web sites. One of the compromised manufacturers, Diebold, was reduced to sending out threatening "cease and desist" letters to college students and others who penetrated its Web site. The vendors' policy seems to be, "Trust us. If you don't, we'll sue you." As you might imagine, these threats haven't been effective.

Among those whom Diebold threatened to sue was Sacramento computer programmer Jim March (whose Web site displays the firm's internal documents) and a group of students from one of the country's most select small colleges, Swarthmore, near Philadelphia. These people thought they were performing a public service by puncturing Diebold's claim that its ace programmers could guarantee absolute security for Diebold's touch-screen voting machines. The Swarthmore students responded to Diebold's threatening letter by suing Diebold first.

Represented by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Stanford University Law School Center for Internet and Society, the Swarthmore students claim that Diebold is seeking to interfere with their right to speak out on issues of public concern. In his declaration to the court, plaintiff Luke Smith said, "I fear that Diebold will come after me or sue me, or pressure the Swarthmore administration to take disciplinary action against me if I discuss the problems with voting technology revealed in the [Diebold's e-mail archive. [I] feel that my academic freedom and my freedom to discuss the political process and to participate in it -- especially as a first-time voter -- are seriously hampered."

The pleadings in the case also detail many of the security shortcomings of the Diebold system and technicians' e-mails expressing concerns about the products and the patches made to the programming code, along with executives' replies detailing how to avoid discussing the topic. The student plaintiffs, mere college sophomores, outline in their pleadings the potential consequences to election reliability of Diebold's poor engineering.

Are we being unreasonable in fearing that there are other folks out there, even more skilled and a lot less idealistic than these teenagers, who could exploit Diebold's insecure voting system maliciously, for either fun and profit -- and do so without any of us being the wiser? Unlike Diebold, we are not worried about the hackers who proclaim to the world what they have accomplished. We are worried about the hackers we never see.

Sequoia Voting Systems' computer code popped up on the Internet, too. The company blamed one of their subcontractors for putting it there, but there it was. This is particularly interesting, given Sequoia's claim in its advertisements that its system is "tamperproof." The code reveals something else: It relies heavily on Microsoft components. And in case you hadn't noticed from the recent worldwide assaults of various viruses and worms, Microsoft programming code is particularly vulnerable to hacking.

Is there better news about ES&S, the remaining company of the Big Three? Sorry. On Feb. 2, 2002, the Baton Rouge Advocate reported, "Arkansas Secretary of State Bill McCuen pleaded guilty to felony charges that he took bribes, evaded taxes and accepted kickbacks. Part of the case involved Business Records Corp. [now merged into ES&S], a Dallas company that sold Arkansas computerized systems for recording corporate and voter registration records. Arkansas officials said the scheme involved ... then-BRC employee Tom Eschberger .... Eschberger got immunity from prosecution for his cooperation. Today, he's a top executive for ES&S."

It would be nice if we could advocate simply postponing HAVA-funded investments in new voting systems until better electronic-voting technology becomes available. That's an option in some counties, such as Yolo, where our manual voting system remains fully certified and operational. But jurisdictions that use the kind of punch-card voting system discredited in Florida in 2000 are under a mandate to replace that equipment at once -- as if it were guranteed that newer equipment is inherently more reliable than older equipment. We doubt this.

Policymakers bear tremendous responsibility in this matter.

Systems used for casting and counting votes need to be better designed and better vetted, and this will only happen when election officials demand it. Counties that presently use de-certified voting equipment won't be permitted to delay purchases of new voting systems until better products are brought to market. They can only choose from among whatever products are available now. And besides the market itself -- which is ruled by concerns of profit, not virtue -- what's available on the market is constrained only by the standards officially set for the certification of voting equipment.

Peter G. Neumann is principal scientist at SRI International in Menlo Park. He's a world leader in studies of risk analysis. Here's what he said in Baseline magazine's Oct. 2 issue: "We are going from the frying pan into fire" in our rush to abandon old voting systems for currently available electronic systems. Speaking of the new touch-screen voting machines, Neumann said: "They've been certified against lame standards."

Better standards are the responsibility of legislators, secretaries of state and, finally, local election officials. If we set better standards, we'll assure that future elections are properly conducted. We urge that California's standards be expanded to embrace all of the problems posed by electronic voting systems, not just some of them. And the sooner, the better.



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Freddie Oakley is the Yolo County clerk/recorder. John Oakley is a professor of law at King Hall School of Law, UC Davis.
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30-Jan-2004, 08:31 AM #14
Continuining problems with Diebold's e-voting machines:

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With such a serious project, the incompetance almost looks intentional.

And there is the past issue of the president of Diebold issuing a statement that he would do anything to insure the re-election of GWB
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30-Jan-2004, 11:41 AM #15
There's already a thread about electronic voting.
Have you seen it?

It was quite a heated debate.

Personally, I am opposed to it. There's just too many people who will assume that there's fraud all the time.

Oh .... and regarding fraudulent voting practices, the Democrats win hands down.
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