[phirunt]

hi,

how do i start this......well i installed SuSE 8.1 and got it runnning. everything was fine but then when i reboot, i can't boot from hard drive....it required the cd-rom to be inserted and do the whole installation thing over again...my question is how can i boot from my hard drive without needing to put the floppy and cd-rom in all the time.
i have windows xp home edtion.

btw...
hd= 60gigz
C drive = 28.7 gigz primary
F drive = 9.84 gigz primary
G drive = 5.5 gigz primary
Linux Ext. 2 = 11 gigz logical (could be the prob. cuz not primary)
Linux Swap = 945mb logical
extended = 12 gigz primary.

[phirunt]

and i hav this question when i bought SuSE i got 3 cd's and i only use cd 1 y is that.....what are the use of cd 2 and 3?

[lynch]

Sounds like you need to install Grub,the bootloader.Look for /boot/grub/menu.lst.If it's not there it wasnt installed.If it is,copy and paste the menu.lst to see if we can figure it out.
Linux can be installed on a logical partition-it doesnt mind a bit.
The other 2 CDs are mostly programs that come as extras.As in extra word processors,extra web browsers etc.
hth
lynch

[phirunt]

uggg....i did do the installation over again and i booted into SuSE. in the command, i typed /boot/grub/menu.lst i found it...it was text with words so how do i install it. and lynch u said to copy and paste it but i don't know where to paste it exactly. and then i curiously went to Yast2 Control Center and did the loader configuration and still didn't work when i reboot it said:
"kernal (hd 0, 5) /boot/unlinuz root=/dev/hda6 ide=nodma apm=off
acpi=off acpi=off hdd=ide=scsi vga=788

error 28: selected item cannot fit into memory

press any key to continue...

[lynch]

/boot/grub/menu.lst is the configuration file for the Grub bootloader.You dont "install" it.
Paste the text of the file in the reply-to box at this forum.
Here's mine:

gfxmenu (hd0,1)/boot/message
color white/blue black/light-gray
default 0
timeout 8

title linux
   kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2  hdc=ide-scsi  vga=normal
   initrd (hd0,1)/boot/initrd
title floppy
   root (fd0)
   chainloader +1
title failsafe
   kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz.shipped root=/dev/hda2 ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off/
 vga=normal nosmp maxcpus=0 disableapic 3
   initrd (hd0,1)/boot/initrd.shipped 

The "initrd" item I have highlighted in bold may be what's too big to load into memory.And what I see, from what you mentioned from your menu.lst,grub is trying to load the failsafe kernel instead of the default one.
lynch

[phirunt]

here it is:

gfxmenu (hd0,5)/boot/message
color white/blue black/light-gray
default 0
timeout 8

title linux
kernel (hd0,5)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off hdd=ide-scsi vga=788
initrd (hd0,5)/boot/initrd

title windows 1
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

title windows 2
root (hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1

title windows 3
root (hd0,2)
makeactive
chainloader +1

title floppy
root (fd0)
chainloader +1

title failsafe
kernel (hd0,5)/boot/vmlinuz.shipped root=/dev/hda6 ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off vga=normal nosmp maxcpus=0 disableapic 3
initrd (hd0,5)/boot/initrd.shipped



i don't know how i got Windows 2 and 3 cuz when i clix on them they didnt boot. windows 1 boots in xp.

[lynch]

That's strange you would have 2 apparently non-existant OSs listed there.
Have you tried getting online with SuSE and running YOU? Yast Online Update may solve this problem.
Also,I found this article that describes a similiar problem.Maybe a switch to Lilo if YOU doesnt help..
Did you choose the safe install method when you began installation?
Read the article in the link,and also try the update thing.If the update doesnt work, We can try installing Lilo.
lynch

[phirunt]

firstable, i dont even know how to connect to the net with suse. suse personal user's guide is just confusing to me. i have an adsl and suse didn't detect my ethernet card.

thx lynch.

[phirunt]

hey lynch ill try to read the link u gave my bout error 28 and do something bout it.

maybe u cant contact me to discuss bout this dilemma further more.

aim: phirun
yahoo: phirun
icq: 166883971

email: phirunt@sbcglobal.net

[phirunt]

oops........*can contact me

sorry

[phirunt]

man im giving up on suse. why it claimed to hav an ez installation and stuff? how do i install a bootloader? i dont care if it LiLO or any other. please help.

im a grumpy suse user.

[lynch]

The web page in the link describes how to install Lilo.
Sorry for all the trouble you're having. Might as well try installing Lilo before you give up on SuSE.What's that going to hurt?
I mean,if you plan on giving up on it,at least you'll know you tried everything.
If you got adsl you can easily get another version of Linux at www.linuxiso.org.
HTH
lynch

[phirunt]

lynch last week, i downloaded mandrake 9.0 and red hat 8.0 but i don know how to install them. i burn the .iso but i don know how to install them. for mandrake i was ready to install it and blah blah and it said to restart and i did but it just rebooted the system but nothing happened. then i decided to download red hat 8.0 and still i cant install it that was y i decided to buy suse. i also downloaded lindows 0S 2.0 still dont know how to install it. my question is that how can i install any of these 0S's. just the extension .iso freaked me out.

regards,

phirunt


p.s. why god?

[phirunt]

o yeah...i also downloaded peanut linux and once again can't install that thing. should i do something with my bios and configure it to boot from cd-rom but i don no how. jesus christ.

[lynch]

You have to create the CDs from the .iso images.All you have right now are .iso images. If you have a CD burning program like EZ-CD Creator or Nero Burning Rom you can make those CDs.There is usually an option to Create CD from image or Burn CD from image
When you installed SuSE, you did boot from the CDrom,right?If so,you dont need to do anything to your bios.
If not,at the 1st screen when you boot your computer there should be a message saying"To Enter Setup Press Del" or some other key or key combo.If you just see a manufacterer's splash screen,press esc to reveal the boot up messages screen.
In Setup look for a setting for "Boot Sequence" or "1st Boot Device" or somthing similiar.
Change it to CDrom,save settings and exit.
HTH
lynch