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26-Sep-2004, 07:23 AM #1
Solved: Help With Knoppix?
basically my windows xp is corrupt (please dont suggest anything to fix it as i realy have tried everything) and i have athe knoppix lvie cd which works fine..whati need to know is how to either create a partiton on my (ntfs) hard drive as i have only one hdd and no parttitons allredy on it
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ooor how to copy my documents folder (files i want to save) to a safe palce on the hdd which wil lnot bwe affected by uninstall/reinstalling windows
any tips would be great as ive gotten this far and come to yet another standstill!
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26-Sep-2004, 11:07 AM #2
Listen carefully:
Not all Linux distros have full NTFS support -- that means, you can mount and read NTFS partitions but never write on them. And Knoppix is not one of those.
I think Suse would work, but I'm not sure.
Conectiva 10 will work no problem, but don't use the beta version available in some sites. If you are interested on it, I'll give you one link.

Anyways, the tool for managing partitions is parted. It's not 100% guarantee, so I don't recommend it if no backups are available.

Parted is able to shrink your partitions but in many cases will simply corrupt them!!

Last edited by dago; 26-Sep-2004 at 07:48 PM..
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26-Sep-2004, 11:44 AM #3
easiest way to go about this...

boot up random live cd linux.

if you have a usb drive.

In a console:

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mount -t vfat /dev/sda(might be 1) /mnt/usbdrive (you might need to make the mount point as well)

mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/windows (again might have to make the /mnt/windows)
then you should be able to navigate to your /mnt/windows/"my documents" folder and do a

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cp filea.doc /mnt/usbdrive/filea.doc
the process would be the same if you just have a floppy drive. If i remember right you can make temporary /mnt locations even in a live cd (i've never personally done a live cd to dink around with actually ^.^)
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26-Sep-2004, 03:18 PM #4
hi guys..tsunam...i really realyl apreciate your time but what you posted is greek to me so im gonig to try dago's idea of using conective 10..if u could supply a link id be mspt happy!
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26-Sep-2004, 03:18 PM #5
sorry bout spellings
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26-Sep-2004, 04:34 PM #6
do a repair of xp
set the comp to boot from cd first in the bios
boot from the xp cd and choose install
ignore the first repair option and continue with install
when windows finds the previous installation then do the repair
this will leave all of your files intact but you will have to reinstall any ms updates again.
the quickest way is to just install sp2
then just use knoppix from the cd
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26-Sep-2004, 07:41 PM #7
xxjonahxx,
tsunam supposes you have an extra hard drive that can be connected via USB. If you do, he prints some commands to use that HD and copy your data from the old disk.

What he says is pretty simple but only works if you have and USB Hard Drive.
If you have a regular extra hard drive, something similar can be done using Knoppix, we can guide you as well.

But... if you don't have an extra hard drive by no way, and you want to take the risk of corrupting your data than 'parted' is one solution.
I'm just affraid you said tsunam is talking Greek. Well, parted would be Ancient Mandarin!!

So, for a better advice, tell us what are your resources, what you have (extra HD, another full computer running whatever, etc).

Depending what you have, you don't need another distribution, Knoppix should be ok.
Anyways, just for information: Conectiva 10 are 3 CD-ROMs burned from ISO files, each with approx. 650MB. How are you planning to burn them?
This is the link ftp://ftp.unicamp.br/pub/Conectiva/iso/
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26-Sep-2004, 08:42 PM #8
hers the whole sorry story again!..
i have a fairly new ntfs style system running windows xp
the pc has a cd r/w drive
one hard drive
no previous partitions
one day last week it stop going past the blue xp screen,,so following advice and other posts i did a windows xp restore
i booted from the cd it worked fine and i went into the restore module which led me to a dos prompt whcih only let me enter about 20 different comands which were listed..
i ran a chkdsk and rebooted then all the variations of checkdisk and rebooted each time i was left at the samescreen
so then i jsut did a xp repair from the boot cd and that seemed fine it went thru all the processes ok
then apon reboot im greeted with a blue windows stop screen and the only way i can do anything now is to start from the xp cd
then i discovered that i can run a seperate os called knoppix live from a cd
so i ddi that and found i had a ntfs drive and that knoppix automatically dosnt let yuo write to this type...i tried to change my read/write type on the hd but it dodsnt work
i had all but given up hope when i discovered i had about 20 cds that i can save all the most important things i need to,,.i right clicked to copy files to a cd using a program in knoppix. this did not work..i had no real explanatino as to why it didnt also
so now i am stuck again..im going to download conectiva 10 and see whut happes there
ALSO i have a laptop which im using now..it has a burner on it also and is runnig fine! with windows xp on it
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26-Sep-2004, 09:25 PM #9
dago it works for a usb thumb drive as well
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27-Sep-2004, 02:57 PM #10
xxjonahxx, now is pretty much more clear.

Listen, the link I gave you for Conectiva is for installation CDs.
That installation process can resize your partition and install Conectiva, but it can corrupt your NTFS partitions as well. Let's try something different, ok?

I suppose you don't have an USB thumb drive or USB hard drive, so the best options are
1- write your data from winXP to CD-R or CD-RW using Knoppix if you have two CD drives on that PC.
2- do you have a crossover cable? Ethernet crossover cable, or a hub/switch? Then we could mount a shared folder on your Laptop and copy your data using samba from Knoppix.

Tell me, why do you need writing on the NTFS partition?
What happen to your typing? Keyboard problems?

There is a Live CD version of Conectiva, you can get it with the link bellow
http://distro2.conectiva.com.br/torr...de-0.5.torrent
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27-Sep-2004, 10:12 PM #11
I take it no burner on this box? If not, then an ethernet crossover cable may be your best bet. If you don't have one, they are cheap.
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27-Sep-2004, 10:38 PM #12
(s)he needs two drives, I mean... only the burner doesn't help because Knoppix would be running from there and (s)he cannot burn while running Knoppix, right?
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28-Sep-2004, 05:49 AM #13
i do hve 2 cd drives when i run the knoppox cd from my normal cd drive so my burner is free i stil lget an error in the kb3 burning program!..it says unknows error 255 but up until then everything seems to be ok it loads the proccessses etc...when i tried to configure kb3 it asked for a root password...i do not have any pass words that i know of on my system!
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28-Sep-2004, 03:15 PM #14
root's password can be whatever you want to be... just open a console and type
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passwd root
and set it as you wish.

Listen, you may try k3b again, but if fails, tell us what you're going to do, I mean, are you going to get a crossover cable?
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