[tomdkat]

I introduce BitTorrent.

Peace...

[sarcasticsteve]

I just recently installed Ubuntu for the first time and I have to say I absolutely adore it. In the past I have only ever explored linux through live cds and found it fun, but wasn't ready to risk messing up a partition or dedicate any of my hard drive to said partition when Windows did what I wanted it to. With the addition in 8.04 of official support of Wubi, I decided to take the dive and give it a try. I tried it with the minimum space and before the end of the night I had uninstalled it...just so I could go back in and change it to the maximum (30GB) of space instead! 8.04 has to be the most user friendly version of Ubuntu for newer users like myself yet.

-Steve

[Indy452]

Originally Posted by tomdkat

I introduce BitTorrent.

Peace...

Thanks, but wow! I still don't quite get it. I just get bored looking at stuff that makes absolutely no sense to me. Sorry man, is torrent something that can be done through frostwire then?

Neal

[CouchMaster]

I completed an online distro upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 an hour or so ago and it went off without a hitch! Even FF3b5 is working flawlessly on this computer (Dell Dimension) - Oh, it is such a good day...

[tomdkat]

I completed an online upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 last night and it went mostly smooth. I had problems with "tasksel", "ubuntu-minimal", "update-manager" not upgrading for some reason. When I first booted, I received several crash reports and I filed bug reports. After a reboot or two, things have calmed down nicely. GNOME 2.22 doesn't "feel" much different to me but I haven't poked around it much. I DO like the new screen resolution applet.

Firefox 3b5 has been very stable for me thus far. I just miss some of the Firefox 2 extensions that aren't available for Firefox 3 yet.

Peace...

[monckywrench]

I upgraded last night from 7.10 with no problems except my RT 8180 chipset DWL-650 802.11b card didn't work afterwards. (It was a spare anyway, don't use one unless it's free!)

I keep a Netgear MA401 (supported by all distros I know of) so I tossed that in and it worked fine.

"I just get bored looking at stuff that makes absolutely no sense to me."

Part of learning computers (ANY operating system) is relentless study. Here's a decent guide:

http://www.slyck.com/bt.php

[Wonder-Downunder]

been using Ubuntu 8.04 64bit in Vmware Server to test and very impressed Folding@Home 64bit SMP about 3mins/frame faster

[tomdkat]

Well, it seems some of my Ubuntu 8.04 upgrade dust has settled. I had a problem with the screensaver causing X to hang and disabling the "random" screensaver has eliminated that. I'll turn random back on to see if updates I've installed since upgrading have fixed anything.

Firefox 3b5 has been rock solid for me and the Flash and Java plugins I've installed (through Ubuntu update facilities) have been working mostly well for me.

So far, I'm digging Ubuntu 8.04.

Peace...

[trekguy]

I have a clean install of 8.04(64bit) on a brand new build. I like it... a lot...it seems to be working great... very fast.

1) I cannot get any flavor of Java or Icedtea to work with Yahoo/Geocities PageBuilder.

2) There doesn't seem to be any adjusting of display properties... I can make the selections to change fonts, etc... but nothing actually changes. It's not a huge deal... it's just that with a brand new build... I was expecting better display.... as in crisper text than with the old PC.

That's it, right now. I have been on the Ubuntuforums... the pages fly by pretty quick over there, and you get a dozen or so different solutions for every problem. I don't know who's got the "right" one. Mostly, I'm satisfied with how this is going, so I don't want to mess it up.

Usually, as some point in the day, I think about reloading XP, and trying the dual-boot thing. Maybe that will go away in time... I don't know. I recently bought and set up a new laptop for my daughter, which has Vista ( she said NO to Ubuntu ). Did not like the Vista, at all... seemed very slow, and disorganized... comparatively.

So, I thought I would throw that out here in the relative calm of TSG/Linux, before I go back into the madhouse of Ubuntu Forums.

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by trekguy

1) I cannot get any flavor of Java or Icedtea to work with Yahoo/Geocities PageBuilder.

And you probably won't, for a while. Things like this is why some run 32-bit distros instead of 64-bit ones on 64-bit hardware. Yeah, you can get some 32-bit apps to work in a 64-bit environment but it involves effort and might not always yield the desired results.

Of course, another question one could ask is why are you using the Yahoo pagebuilder []anyway[/i]?

2) There doesn't seem to be any adjusting of display properties... I can make the selections to change fonts, etc... but nothing actually changes. It's not a huge deal... it's just that with a brand new build... I was expecting better display.... as in crisper text than with the old PC.

What kinds of properties are you looking to change?

Peace...

[trekguy]

Originally Posted by tomdkat

And you probably won't, for a while. Things like this is why some run 32-bit distros instead of 64-bit ones on 64-bit hardware. Yeah, you can get some 32-bit apps to work in a 64-bit environment but it involves effort and might not always yield the desired results.

Yeah, I don't want to patch and workaround... I've come to the conclusion that I will need to wait for Java to get up to 64 bit/Ubuntu speed. I just wanted someone smarter than me to say it.

Originally Posted by tomdkat

Of course, another question one could ask is why are you using the Yahoo pagebuilder anyway?

It's what I started with, and what I know how to use. Is there another way to make/edit pages within the Yahoo package? I guess I haven't even looked into it.

Originally Posted by tomdkat

What kinds of properties are you looking to change?

Peace...

Well, I built this computer with brand new, fairly up-to-date parts. I've only ever had used, 3-4 year old stuff before this. I have an LCD monitor, and now, I actually have a digital output to plug into it. I guess I was expecting a very sharp, crisp display. What I have is good, but the text is... I don't know how to explain it... almost like a varigation within each text letter/number. So, I opened up "appearance", and there were choices to make regarding font, and others (crap, I'm at work now, I can't remember what else), but when I make changes there... nothing really happens. I am using some sort of generic, "vesa" video driver... that probably explains that... but, I've read there are probs with ATI drivers, so I haven't dared change it without some concrete advice. Again, I find a dozen different solutions for this... some are happy with what they do,and some lose their display completely. This is the point where I feel like I want to have Windows again... I guess it's just a comfort zone thing.

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by trekguy

It's what I started with, and what I know how to use. Is there another way to make/edit pages within the Yahoo package? I guess I haven't even looked into it.

Don't mind me, just giving you a hard time.

Well, I built this computer with brand new, fairly up-to-date parts. I've only ever had used, 3-4 year old stuff before this. I have an LCD monitor, and now, I actually have a digital output to plug into it. I guess I was expecting a very sharp, crisp display. What I have is good, but the text is... I don't know how to explain it... almost like a varigation within each text letter/number. So, I opened up "appearance", and there were choices to make regarding font, and others (crap, I'm at work now, I can't remember what else), but when I make changes there... nothing really happens. I am using some sort of generic, "vesa" video driver... that probably explains that... but, I've read there are probs with ATI drivers, so I haven't dared change it without some concrete advice. Again, I find a dozen different solutions for this... some are happy with what they do,and some lose their display completely. This is the point where I feel like I want to have Windows again... I guess it's just a comfort zone thing.

Since you're using a generic driver, you can't expect full/maximum performance from your video card. I've also got an ATI video card and I've had success with the ATI drivers (vs the X.org driver I'm using now). Have you tried the ATI driver for you video card? If you click "System", "Administration", "Hardware drivers", do you see an ATI driver listed? If you do, give it a try and see what happens? On my system, I've even got an ATI Catalyst app I could run, presumably to allow me to configure my ATI video card.

It's true some people can have problems with ATI drivers but that doesn't mean everyone will.

Peace...

[trekguy]

Originally Posted by tomdkat

Don't mind me, just giving you a hard time.

Since you're using a generic driver, you can't expect full/maximum performance from your video card. I've also got an ATI video card and I've had success with the ATI drivers (vs the X.org driver I'm using now). Have you tried the ATI driver for you video card? If you click "System", "Administration", "Hardware drivers", do you see an ATI driver listed? If you do, give it a try and see what happens? On my system, I've even got an ATI Catalyst app I could run, presumably to allow me to configure my ATI video card.

It's true some people can have problems with ATI drivers but that doesn't mean everyone will.

Peace...

There is one thing in there... it is an ATI somethingorother. It is NOT enabled at the moment. OK, I'll try it when I get home.

So.... when there are updates available... a person should always just go ahead and install them? Are they are all applicable to the machine that is auto-downloading them? So in theory, Ubuntu 8.04 would gradually get better and better as bugs get reported and resolved, as time goes by???

One more thing... about half of time, when I cold boot, I will get a black screen after the Ubuntu line loader thing, but before the login screen. Just goes black. It is still going, because I can login blind, and hear the Ubuntu music. Think this a graphics problem, and could be resolved by enabling the ATI stuff??? I guess I will find out... just typing out loud now. I need a vacation.

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by trekguy

There is one thing in there... it is an ATI somethingorother. It is NOT enabled at the moment. OK, I'll try it when I get home.

Make sure the hardware driver listed is the appropriate driver.

So.... when there are updates available... a person should always just go ahead and install them? Are they are all applicable to the machine that is auto-downloading them? So in theory, Ubuntu 8.04 would gradually get better and better as bugs get reported and resolved, as time goes by???

The Ubuntu updates will be to the base system and to packages you have installed. I don't have KDE installed so I don't get all KDE updates, as an example. As bugs get fixed, etc., you might or might not notice improvements in the system. It just depends on where the bugs are, etc.

One more thing... about half of time, when I cold boot, I will get a black screen after the Ubuntu line loader thing, but before the login screen. Just goes black. It is still going, because I can login blind, and hear the Ubuntu music. Think this a graphics problem, and could be resolved by enabling the ATI stuff??? I guess I will find out... just typing out loud now. I need a vacation.

This might be a video driver related issue since you're probably using a newer video card (I forget which card you're using). Going with the ATI driver might help with this. Without having any other information, it's hard to know what's going on for sure.

Peace...

[trekguy]

Well, I didn't know how to check if it was the correct driver... but it was in my hardware proprietary driver options... so I enabled it. Much better!!! There's the clear, sharp display I was looking forward to.

Yes, I can now change fonts and sizes and themes....

I'll have to wait and see if the blank screen/boot thing happens again... I can't shut this down right now... it looks too good!!

ATI Radeon Xpress 1250

Thanks for the support.