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19-Apr-2009, 08:47 PM #1
Bash Permission Denied- Trying to config for wireless
Hi there!

As my name states, I am very new to Linux, and I am having trouble getting it to go online. I've spoken to the tech support team at my internet provider, as well as Dell, but have gotten no help. I have tried various commands such as /usr.sbin.system-config-network, and have recieved error messages no matter what I put in for a command. I really just want to get this thing online!!

Any help would be very much appreciated!!

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19-Apr-2009, 09:10 PM #2
I removed your email address to help guard against spam and because we don't do help by email.

Wireless in Linux seems to "just work" or else is a big headache. What Linux are you using? Is this a Dell that came with Linux installed?

Your problem may be just that you need to precede your command with su (super user) as in

su /usr.sbin.system-config-network

You will be prompted for your password.
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19-Apr-2009, 11:47 PM #3
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I've gotten my computer online.. but it was a headache...!!

There was no instant or easy going about it.. kind of putting me off linux altogether, truth be told. Wondows is unfriendly, unyielding, and a hefty sort of beginnner thing altogether.... but as of yet.. After being trained in C++, I find that Linux is more like a cult community. I got the computer online.. I'm okay with that.. but the dorky, computer geek crap... not impressed..

HTML, Java, Windows, MAC... then we have our outsiders such as Linux, Cold Fusion, (not to metion the mother C++).....

I'm goimg to revamp Linux just because it pissed me off. I have a 137 IQ documented, and available on transcripts.... I'm about to sneeze. Have you ever heard of the storyteller of Ireland.. have you ever read Kalimantaan regarding Borneo etc.. I read, and I learn....

I took C++ AGES ago... don't recall much, but I am quick, and Linux seems like a breeze compared to C prog.

What I don't get.. and what I would LIKE to understand is..... the benefits of linux vs. windows. I am a windows XP chick.. fixed etc reinstalled whatever XPs left & right. Linux... I can do what with this that I could not do with Windows?!
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20-Apr-2009, 09:05 AM #4
Hi BeginnerChick,

I too once used WinXP Pro SP2 w/a dual-boot Fedora FC3 Linux (each on its own hard drive - I don't like the idea of more than one OS on a hard drive). The only thing that impressed me was that you were willing to give Linux a try. Let me tell you part of my story.

Once I figured out how to get online w/Linux (had a dialup 56k modem at the time), I also figured out that it would be a wise thing to save each MBR (Master Boot Record) off onto my Linux hard drive - the thinking being that someday I would surely need one of them if the MBR on one or both got trashed. Well, if you have a clue, at this point you may be asking yourself (with your IQ) just how would I be planning to access those saved MBRs on the Linux hard drive when both hard drive MBRs are trashed. The answer is simple - a Live CD of Linux would be able to mount and then read and write either of the MBRs after comparing with what is currently residing in either of the trashed MBRs locations. As it turned out, I did have to recover in that manner just as I thought I might. I don't think you can save your MBR with "Wondows" as you wrote it, but maybe there is a tool to do so - I don't know, as I have never heard of any.

I don't think "Wondows", has either a Live CD or the capability to do anything like that - i.e. unless you write a bit of code for a tool that will do that.

Linux has the tools to completely replace Windows. If you insist on being able to execute a Windows executable you can't do without, you can just install Wine in Linux and away you go.

When WinXP stb'd on me just under 3 years ago, I got it back working partially for two weeks then it really just stopped working at all - my bad as I did not fully complete the exact procedure I followed. I probably have to do a parallel re-install to get it back to working. That will never happen. I can just mount the disk with my current setup to access any file I feel I need with Linux.

What I do with Linux takes a little patience, but has big dividends. I work exclusively in a Live CD environment I have constructed w/scripts to update with each powerup to install tarballs of the updates I have made. It only takes about a minute or two to do the setup and install the updates.

Why would anyone do that you may ask. The first reason is security. The main difference between my setup and any installed OS is that my disks are not mounted, and the Live CD is not writable.

Think about that for a moment and ask yourself the question of how most malware works and what systems it targets. The usual answer is it cloaks itself in the file system, and targets mostly "Wondows"! To attack Linux, the sophistication or wealth of the cracker needs a major upgrade to either be able to craft the attack or buy it on the "Dark Internet" websites out there catering to organized crime, etc.

Initially, I had 1GB of RAM - now I have 3GB, and may yet jump it up to the 4GB max my motherboard can tolerate as memory is cheap. Additionally, I can throw the sdparm command to spin down my disks - another special thing that "Wondows" is not likely to be able to do - i.e. I have 4 disks in my system - unless some code is written for a tool to do it.

When I power off, if any malware (Linux can get compromised) gets through (my iptables firewall is very restrictive and my hardware router firewall is stealthed as well - both tested with zenmap/nmap for all ports) the malware is short-lived. I have even figured out how to retrofit the smem executable to wipe memory (10 min) at shutdown - ask yourself how I do that with with my file system built (from Live CD) in memory!

Although the Linux kernel comes with iptables capability, you have to give it rules on boot up to make it work, without which unless you have a hardware router firewall - your Linux may be running "naked" on the Internet without protection from intrusion.

I mentioned above that Linux can be compromised. A former work colleague had his home Linux server compromised when he did not keep up with security updates - and this fellow is very smart and competent. His system became infected with the SuckIt rootkit. Mostly, the experience embarrassed him, as it should have. Luckily, there are two pieces of software to scan for such problems - chkrootkit and rkhunter which are both available in Linux repositories or source code or binaries can be downloaded and compiled or installed. Also, there is ClamAV and Bitdefender for Linux if you feel the need to do AV scanning in Linux.

I have all of these security software(s), and use them only occasionally as with not being up 24/7, I am not a very attractive target for malware as opposed to "Wondows".

The benefit - you ask - I pay $0.00 for OS or security software. I used to have Trend Micro's PC-cillen for AV, Webroot's SpySweeper for AS and real-time agents, both paid, Prevx HIPS, and several other some paid and some free - but, all almost requiring daily updates.

The only sort of malware I may be vulnerable to is probably a Bios rootkit, but it would still have to target me in the first place, and that is not very likely with Linux and a lot more so with an easy target like an unpatched "Wondows".

Also, I never do any financial transactions via my computer - I prefer to deal directly with a human being at the local bank.

"Wondows" comes with one of the worst OS constructs ever created - a Registry which everyone can access. Bad, bad, bad idea - worst OS idea ever! Linux has the benefit of file permissions (which you've already confronted), and while "Wondows" may support some of this - "Wondows" was never architected with security aforethought.

I personally will not give any new "Wondows" a shot if and until M$ ramps up a new OS derived from the "Singularity" research project - about 1200 PhDs designed and built a new OS from the ground up (including security) with a new language - very impressive research. The only deficit was that there was no bridge to M$'s revenue stream of Applications that folks seem to want to buy - but, they are now working on that according to what I last heard.

As always, the question of usability will be high on my list - and if it fails in any regard, then I will not consider using it.

Linux is far more flexible and adaptable to new technologies - I can hardly wait for graphene-based processors to take over from silicon!

In short, with Linux you will be able to do everything "Wondows" does, and then some where "Wondows" will never be able to go.

-- Tom
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20-Apr-2009, 09:26 AM #5
A beginner in anything is going to have more trouble and discomfort with it than with what they know. That's one of the reasons people resisted moving from Windows 98SE to XP, and now resist moving from XP to Vista.

If you want or need to work at a "lower level" rather than just taking what the Operating Systems GUI gives you Linux is far superior than Windows. That shouldn't be surprising since Windows was developed for mass appeal and Linux was developed by Unix lovers who wanted a free version of Unix and added GUI more to show that it can be done than from a feeling of real need.

Linux is more secure than Windows. Partially because the crooks target Windows, but also by design. Vista, however, comes close with its UAC.

There are many, many versions or flavors of Linux. I started with Ubuntu and find its look and feel to be much like Windows XP. Some people like that version in general but not the GUI, so they develop a different GUI and call the result Kubuntu. And then there is the other derivative Xubuntu with a simpler GUI that will run on smaller machines.

Speaking of smaller machines my Systemax laptop (see computer specs) came with 98SE (which I never liked or learned very well). I had XP on it for a few years, but boot took about 7 minutes. I tried several versions of Linux and now have Puppy Linux, which takes 1 minute to boot and 15 seconds to shut down. That's one thing that people are doing with the smaller Linuxes--making old computers somewhat useful again.

Another use for Linux is as a "rescue disk"--a Live CD that can be used to copy data from a non-bootable Windows machine onto external media (not everybody backs up their data before disaster strikes). Some people like to carry their Linux around with them on a USB flash drive. Some just like the fact that the OS is available for download or nominal cost.

Frankly, for everyday normal usage I prefer Windows XP or Vista. But I also enjoy using Ubuntu sometimes and find Puppy to be the best fit for my old Systemax.

I took your rambling post as an excuse to respond with one of my own. Glad you got your wireless working. Enjoy your Linux exploration, but don't feel that you have to choose just one OS to use.
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