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01-Jul-2009, 08:17 AM #1
Solved: Sudden Firefox Death Syndrome
Hello,

It started happening after, upon starting Firefox, it offered to update Flashblocker - an add-on I have installed in Firefox. Ever since, Firefox will crash a few seconds (~10) after I start it.

Since I understand it is hardwired into the system and cannot be simply reinstalled, how should I go about solving this?

Thanks,
Daniel.
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01-Jul-2009, 09:42 AM #2
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Hello,

It started happening after, upon starting Firefox, it offered to update Flashblocker - an add-on I have installed in Firefox. Ever since, Firefox will crash a few seconds (~10) after I start it.
Un-install that add-on.

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Since I understand it is hardwired into the system and cannot be simply reinstalled, how should I go about solving this?

Thanks,
Daniel.
Firefox you mean?

I doubt it is "hardwired" into system. I would be very surprised if you could not un-install it.
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01-Jul-2009, 10:26 AM #3
That's an idea : )
Didn't work, alas.
Though it now takes Firefox longer to crash.... it seems.

I've noticed that some changes in Ubuntu only take effect after a restart (like - when I installed epiphany with apt-get), and that the system not always asks you to restart. I've been wondering 1) could that be the case? I'll test it anyway, of course. 2) Is there a way to 'refresh' the system so that it registers changes made without the need for a restart?

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01-Jul-2009, 11:09 AM #4
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Hello,

It started happening after, upon starting Firefox, it offered to update Flashblocker - an add-on I have installed in Firefox. Ever since, Firefox will crash a few seconds (~10) after I start it.

Since I understand it is hardwired into the system and cannot be simply reinstalled, how should I go about solving this?

Thanks,
Daniel.
Hi Daniel,

What Linux distribution do you use?

Firefox on Linux is usually installed in /usr/lib.

I install separate versions of Firefox as follows:
1) cd ~/Desktop
2) download the file firefox-3.5.tar.bz2 to your Desktop
3) mkdir /usr/lib/firefox-3.5
4) bunzip2 firefox-3.5.tar.bz2
5) tar -xf ./firefox-3.5.tar
6) cd firefox
7) sudo cp -rp ./* /usr/lib/firefox-3.5
8) cd /usr/bin
9) sudo -i
10) rm -f firefox
11) ln -s ../lib/firefox-3.5/firefox firefox-3.5
12) ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox
13) exit
14) cd ~/Desktop
15) bzip2 firefox-3.5.tar
16) rm -fr firefox (step 6 cleanup)
17) save the file firefox-3.5.tar.bz2 onto hard drive

For Firefox-3.0.11, I do a similar sequence of commands, and create the symbolic link of firefox-3.0 linked over to the directory /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.11.

I have a script swff.sh which is able to switch between firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.0.11.

What I suggest you do, is to completely remove the contents of the /usr/lib/firefox* directory where your current release of firefox resides and follow the steps above to install firefox-3.5, and then repopulate the add-ons one at a time only from the mozilla add-on web site, i.e. no third-party add-on web sites.

First, however, you should do the following commands to identify the right /usr/lib directory contents to delete (as root):
$ which firefox
$ ls -lt `which firefox`
Follow the output results over to /usr/lib, and do the following command:
$ cd /usr/lib
$ ls -ldt firefox*
This should help you identify which firefox directory in /usr/lib is where Firefox is located.

Then there is the issue of backing up your profile of Firefox which resides in the directory of ~/.mozilla. Everyday I take one or more backups - usually after I have saved a link or want to retain a certain set of history. I use the following steps to do this in two separate scripts: cd ~; tar -cf ./mozilla.tar ./.mozilla; bzip2 mozilla.tar;
Then I save the file, mozilla.tar.bz2 onto my hard drive.

Saving the profile, preserves your bookmarks and whatever history, etc. you want saved, and thus you can reinstall a previous profile checkpoint without the problem.

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01-Jul-2009, 12:22 PM #5
I shall study your explanation in depth and (probably) come back with questions.

Thanks a lot,
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03-Jul-2009, 08:56 AM #6
Hi,

Firefox is working again.
I've uninstalled flashblock in Synaptic, yet it still shows ans is 'enabled' in the add-ons list in Firefox. Also Firefox is asking me to install an update for it, but I'll wait a little with that : )

So, it's back to Linux school for me.

Thanks for your help,
D.
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03-Jul-2009, 12:20 PM #7
Hello,

Firefox started crashing on dictionary.com, whenever I searched for a word. Removing flashblock completely using the Firefox add-ons interface solved that.

What I don't understand ('cause I'm a noob, I guess) is why uninstalling it in Synaptic didn't remove it completely.

Anyways, all is well.
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03-Jul-2009, 03:51 PM #8
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Hello,

Firefox started crashing on dictionary.com, whenever I searched for a word. Removing flashblock completely using the Firefox add-ons interface solved that.

What I don't understand ('cause I'm a noob, I guess) is why uninstalling it in Synaptic didn't remove it completely.

Anyways, all is well.
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If it works the way mine does, the removal removes from root partition but it doesn't touch the configuration files which are on the home partition.
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03-Jul-2009, 03:55 PM #9
So when it showed flashblock in Firefox addons it didn't mean it was actually still installed, right? I guess that would explain it.
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So when it showed flashblock in Firefox addons it didn't mean it was actually still installed, right? I guess that would explain it.
Sorry, I misunderstood.

I thought you meant you uninstalled Firefox.

Flashblock add-on for firefox has nothing to do with my package manager.

I just install add-ons via Firefox. I don't install them with synaptic at all. So I just uninstall with FF as well.

I use Noscript and AdBlock Plus if you want to try another way of blocking flash.
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04-Jul-2009, 09:53 AM #11
Hey RootbeaR,

Yeah, AdBlock is a gem. But I'm sure NoScript (a source of infinite annoyance when I used it with Firefox in Windaz) is really redundant in Linux. I'd rather use SiteAdvisor anyway, better than to manually turn scripts on on every single page I visited. Not sure there is a Linux version for it though....

I think sometimes ppl come up with security measures that do more damage than what they are supposed to protect you against (Vista UAC, for instance). But I digress.....

Not sure how to uninstall Firefox with Ubuntu, since it's a central part of the distro (part of some 'core packages', or something like that - NOT HARDWIRED! : )).

I've been given instructions but am still too ignorant to follow them.....

Anyways, it works.
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Hey RootbeaR,

Yeah, AdBlock is a gem. But I'm sure NoScript (a source of infinite annoyance when I used it with Firefox in Windaz) is really redundant in Linux.

Not sure there is a Linux version for it though...
It works for my purpose, which isn't security.


Click Tools>Add-ons>Browse all add-ons.

Then just do a search for it. Or any other for that matter. Do you have the TSG one?
I recommend it.

That is how I install and un-install all my add-ons.

It is strictly for FF, not my OS or for share with any other program.

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Not sure how to uninstall Firefox with Ubuntu, since it's a central part of the distro (part of some 'core packages', or something like that - NOT HARDWIRED! : )).
No need to. It is probably default application for other applications to connect to website.

Defaults can be changed.

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I've been given instructions but am still too ignorant to follow them.....
Hardly, besides, none of us are yet born with this knowledge.
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04-Jul-2009, 04:04 PM #13
Hola : )

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Click Tools>Add-ons>Browse all add-ons
Yeah, familiar with that one : ) I've gotten so used to Firefox by now, I get impatient with other browsers; although Chrome is quite good, if you ignore its practices of information gathering and the limited configuration options.

As for McAffee SiteAdvisor - I searched for it using the abovementioned interface and came up with nothing. Googled for it but couldn't find a Linux version. But I assume that Firefox for Linux is more secure that FF for Windaz, mostly thanks to the platform and the rules it imposes on software.

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No need to. It is probably default application for other applications to connect to website.

Defaults can be changed.
Probably. I do not understand it fully yet, but the whole subject of which this question is just a part is very high on my list of things to learn in Linux, so I assume I'll figure it out soon. However, since it is working, messing with those particular system defaults & configs is rather low on that same list at the moment....

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Hardly, besides, none of us are yet born with this knowledge
Well, true, but I have very high expectations of my own learning mechanism, hence the constant self-criticism : )

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