 | Junior Member with 20 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: La-La Sangeles Experience: Speed-read root drives |
06-Oct-2009, 02:48 AM
#16 | Overkill notwithstanding, all you need to do is drill completely through the drive (Making sure you target the plates.), once. Then discard in appropriate fashion (Read as 'Recycle'.). | | Moderator with 96,644 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Eastern PA, USA Experience: Advanced age & experience |
06-Oct-2009, 09:02 AM
#17 | Well, that's not technically true. The data in places you haven't drilled could be recovered by disassembling the drive as they do in data recovery facilities. | | Member with 52 posts. | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Experience: Intermediate |
06-Oct-2009, 11:32 AM
#18 | Johnwill is right,
In my military training, with AV/SAT surv, SARS, and other training, there is a way to "fill" in the gaps from the missing data. It's like putting a puzzle together. With a certain algo formula, the computer system can "Guess" and search for other programs and data that are exact in comparison. To make sure that your data is secured, the hdd disk must be completely destroyed as in melted and recycled into something else. | | Moderator with 96,644 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Eastern PA, USA Experience: Advanced age & experience |
06-Oct-2009, 05:01 PM
#19 | Remember, we're talking about what's possible, not what's likely.  The only sure way is to totally destroy the platters. | | Community Moderator with 32,942 posts. | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Texas Experience: cp/m --> |
06-Oct-2009, 05:24 PM
#20 | had to wipe a users hd today, as it got corrupted and would not boot, but the data was salvageable. Was on hold with dell, and had the right set of hex head screwdrivers, popped the lid of, keyed up the platter nice and good, snapped off the actuator arm, and gave it to my boss, asking if that was good enough to give to the recyclers.
He put it on display as 'gangsta d-ban'.
__________________ rate me | M.V.P. - Desktop Experience | M.C.S.A. | M.C.P. - MS Server 2k3, Network Architecture
"Ask Bill why the string in function 9 is terminated by a dollar sign. Ask him, because he can't answer. Only I know that". - Gary Kildall | | Moderator with 96,644 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Eastern PA, USA Experience: Advanced age & experience |
06-Oct-2009, 07:45 PM
#21 | I have platters from a 14", 8", 5.25", 3.5", and a 2.5" disk hanging on my wall. I'm still looking for the 1.8" platter, but I haven't killed any of those drives yet.  | | Community Moderator with 32,942 posts. | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Texas Experience: cp/m --> |
07-Oct-2009, 07:42 AM
#22 | jeez, john......you could make a nice mobile out of that for the grandkids..... | | Moderator with 96,644 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Eastern PA, USA Experience: Advanced age & experience |
07-Oct-2009, 09:18 AM
#23 | He's too young to appreciate it, I'll wait a few years. | | Member with 52 posts. | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Experience: Intermediate |
07-Oct-2009, 11:19 AM
#24 | You're not talking about the old brown IBM 14" data disk right?
I used to have one, there's about 6 hole in the middle. I think I was 10 then when I started to get into electronics. | | Moderator with 96,644 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Eastern PA, USA Experience: Advanced age & experience |
07-Oct-2009, 03:21 PM
#25 | Yep, they were brown oxide in those days. You can stick the 3.5" platter right through the disk. | | Junior Member with 5 posts. | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Experience: Intermediate |
07-Oct-2009, 06:51 PM
#26 | AD is smart | | Junior Member with 20 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: La-La Sangeles Experience: Speed-read root drives |
10-Oct-2009, 09:55 PM
#27 | Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnWill Well, that's not technically true. The data in places you haven't drilled could be recovered by disassembling the drive as they do in data recovery facilities. | Actually, if you drill through the disc media, which is composed of a highly sensitive magnetic alloy machined to the significantly tight specs. necessary to meet the standard, the only way to recover data would be through the prohibitively costly method of carefully filling the holes so the the heads will not catch on the edges(And forget about not corrupting the data in process.). You may think you could read the data on the untouched portion of the disc, but the heads read the entire disc at spin-up to verify the surface and mbr, etc. | | Junior Member with 20 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: La-La Sangeles Experience: Speed-read root drives |
10-Oct-2009, 10:02 PM
#28 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex.Luthor Johnwill is right,
In my military training, with AV/SAT surv, SARS, and other training, there is a way to "fill" in the gaps from the missing data. It's like putting a puzzle together. With a certain algo formula, the computer system can "Guess" and search for other programs and data that are exact in comparison. To make sure that your data is secured, the hdd disk must be completely destroyed as in melted and recycled into something else. | Lex, yes given enough resources, and the will to do it, this can be done BUT, the average law enforcement agency does not have the time, $, or the will unless the case is high-profile involving life/death, national security or child endangerment. Of course multi-million $ theft would get their attn. too, but in all the cases stated, the agency would become fedral AND we all know what that means in terms of resources. I do data rec. for dumass musicians who have lost, killed, deleted or corrupted their music and charge by the Mb of recovered work. | | Junior Member with 20 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: La-La Sangeles Experience: Speed-read root drives |
10-Oct-2009, 10:04 PM
#29 | funny, that's what I do with them...they all have distinct and pleasant tones....hive-mind. | | Junior Member with 17 posts. | | |
10-Oct-2009, 10:08 PM
#30 | Thanks iamubiquitous.
I was starting to wonder what form of Frankenstein monster I created with this question. After drilling, scratching, bending, breaking, and burnishing I thought I had done enough. Then I read some of these later posts and it would seem that nothing short of a Star Trek transporter set on maximum dispersion would protect my data.
In the end I'm inclined to think no one would spend the kind of money necessary to try and recover my data. I mean if it's that valuable they can write me the check and I'll tell them what was on the darn thing! | |
Smart Search
| Find your solution! | |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | |  WELCOME TO TECH SUPPORT GUY! Are you looking for the solution to your computer problem? Join our site today to ask your question -- for free! Our site is run completely by volunteers who want to help you solve your computer problems. See our Welcome Guide to get started.
| Thread Tools | | | | Rate This Thread | | | | You Are Using: |
Advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service.
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:26 AM.
Copyright © 1996 - 2009 TechGuy, Inc. All rights reserved.
Powered by vBulletin, Copyright © 2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. | |
|