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Mulder's Guide to Burning VCDs and DVDs from Home Movies


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03-Oct-2004, 12:42 PM #46
Lightbulb DVDs of Home Movies
As I noted on my post elsewhere on this Forum. Home burned DVDs may not play on all equipment expecially if a disk label is used. I recently burned a DVD of old home movies for a friend. He just replied via email that the menu on the DVD works, the sound works, but the movie clips won't play (although it played without problem on my CyberHome DVD player). Yes, I had put a label on the DVD I sent him.

Moral of the story: Don't label DVDs.
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10-Oct-2004, 08:46 PM #47
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Originally Posted by esther
l have another problem: l burned my movie from my camcorder directly on a dvd using a dvd recorder. ls there a programme that will let me edit the movies from the dvd?? lt plays very well on my pc.
Yes, TMPGenc will let you do that as well as Ulead (see links in my first post). But with TMPGenc you will need to get the add on for the sound because when you record directly to DVD from a DVD recorder, it records a separate track.
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10-Oct-2004, 08:48 PM #48
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As I noted on my post elsewhere on this Forum. Home burned DVDs may not play on all equipment expecially if a disk label is used. I recently burned a DVD of old home movies for a friend. He just replied via email that the menu on the DVD works, the sound works, but the movie clips won't play (although it played without problem on my CyberHome DVD player). Yes, I had put a label on the DVD I sent him.

Moral of the story: Don't label DVDs.
I'm not sure what you mean by "don't label DVDs"? Do you mean affixing a lable to the top of the DVD? If so, that doesn't make any difference. Of course, if you put the label on the bottom of the DVD it would!
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10-Oct-2004, 08:58 PM #49
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I am pretty stupid to have to post this, but I do use the computer often. WHAT is the big difference between a DVD disk and a Cd-R? I aw that Mulder posted something about using DVD drives to brun them, but I guess you are referring to burning DVD-R's. I was wondering, if I use a normal CD-R and burn mpegs and mpgs onto it using Nero, to make Vcds.
A DVD allows recording in DVD format (MPEG-2) at better quality. It is also much bigger at 4.7 Gigs (single sided) than 700 to 800 Megs for a CD-R. As I said before, DVD burners are so cheap now I wouldn't even screw around with putting video on CD-R. The quality is noticeably better on DVD and you can store more.

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My second question is how much like on average can you put in a VCD cd... I hope that's not too confusing, well what I'm trying to say is how many minutes are allowed. Would it be the same for like say if you were to use a 80min CD-R, that means you have 80mins of Video footage able to record on it. (like dose it work like it does when you burn music) BTW, Mulder, is a genius. If this question is somehow a repeat , I am very sorry to have posted it. (keeping in mind, this is my 12th year, damn hw! hehe)

Thx ya'll
The minutes of video footage depend on the MPEG encoding. The 80 minutes refers to audio not video, although most standard encoding for VCD tries to replicate the one minute of video for one minute of audio space on a VCD so you can get about 80 minutes. But as I said, VCD quality is not good IMO and I would not waste my time making VCD video.
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11-Oct-2004, 11:02 AM #50
Lightbulb More on why DVD Labels may cause problems
To clarify.

I burn two DVDs from the same material so they are Identical.

On one I put a label (on the CORRECT side, of course) the other one I leave with no label.

I created serveral test pairs in this manner using different material (movies).

I play the DVDs on three other DVD players (the ones that have had a problem with my "home burned" DVDs)

The DVDs without labels work fine. Those with labels either hang or otherwise fail.

My conclusion: Labels appear to be a problem on some players, possibly because of the extra weight. Don't use them. Label with a permanent marker instead.

I suggest some of you others who have had problems with the DVDs you burn hanging during playback, see if a label is to blame.

BTW my CyberHome DVD player seems to be immune to this problem, is inexpensive and plays MPG movies as well as DVD, JPG and MP3.
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11-Oct-2004, 11:13 AM #51
I have read on here regarding the problems with labels on DVDs, so haven't used them, only on my CDs. The question I have.......has anyone used the machine which presses "labels" onto the disc directly? Do They cause a problem? I have seen them at Staples and wondered if they were worth the investment. I have several disc to make and was wondering if they caused the same problems as the paper labels. Thanks.
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11-Oct-2004, 01:24 PM #52
Question Cable Concerns
My vhs-c camcorder only has audio and video hookups (the white & yellow wires.) I also have the vcr adapter tape.
My VCR has an s video out as well as a&v.
My computer has a tv out (s video type)
They are both outs.
Can you explain to me how to hook this particular mess up, or isnt it possible?
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11-Oct-2004, 03:20 PM #53
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The minutes of video footage depend on the MPEG encoding. The 80 minutes refers to audio not video, although most standard encoding for VCD tries to replicate the one minute of video for one minute of audio space on a VCD so you can get about 80 minutes. But as I said, VCD quality is not good IMO and I would not waste my time making VCD video.
I'm not sure I fully understand, but if your not going to waste time making a vcd. How would I make a cd with video on it. U've seem to mention mpeg, and that its much better quality. I'll try to keep that in mind, and ty it out.


And you guys with the labels, what's with labels!! they're waste of paper, and they cause problems! don't use them, even though it may look attractive to have such artistic design on them. Personally, I don't see how the labels can do anything to the performance of the dvd, but i guess it depends on how thick it is etc.. Hope that helps
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13-Oct-2004, 01:08 AM #54
Copying VHS tape onto a DVD
Hi, I was wondering how the process would work if I want to copy a VHS tape I have onto a DVD, using my computer. Would I have to buy the same hardware you mentioned....I had thought there might be a cable I could buy to attach my VCR to my computer, and then copy it using my computer's DVD player....
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13-Oct-2004, 02:46 AM #55
Hi all

I read all the thread and as almost all first time posters I have questions to post (instead of answers)

I didn’t find anything regarding the codecs. I already own Ulead video studio 8, which comes with real player and QuickTime player. I definitely don’t want these two to be installed on my new PC, so my question is: can the Ulead video studio 8 function normally without these 2 applications and instead to install Download K-Lite Codec or codec pack all in 1. Further are these two codecs covering real player and QuickTime or do I have to download QuickTime Alternative and Real Alternative.

Last but not least, I am trialing MpegEncoder 1.4.1 and I would appreciate your comments regarding MainConcept’s “DVCPro 25/50 DV Codec” and MainConcept’s “Motion JPEG Codec v3.2.4”. If I install all above codecs, would my PC slow-down, because it is very new and I noted almost all codecs are installed in C:\WINDOWS\system directory.

Thanks for reading all my thoughts

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13-Oct-2004, 10:06 AM #56
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I use the ADS Tech Video Xpress Capture unit to bring Tape Video to computer. It sells for under $100 and includes software. One end of the device connects to the tape players RCA jacks (Video and Audio) the other end connects to the computer via USB.

This method allows you to capture your tape video as an MPG file which can be converted to DVD format with ULead Video Studio or similar software.

Recently, I brought some old 8mm movies over to VHS and converted them to DVD in this manner. The toughest problem of this project was finding a good 8mm projector!
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09-Nov-2004, 07:40 AM #57
The new nero 6.6 will allow you to burn DVD straight from an AVI file now no need to convert with other progs, nero will do all the hard work takes a bit of time but no stretching or any quality loss that i can see
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16-Nov-2004, 02:10 PM #58
newbie question: I have a dvd-r burned already
I needed to get an analog video turned into digital format so it could be edited and burned onto a video cd for a short presentation.. I took the camera & tape to a production house and had it transferred since I don't yet have a capture card.

I got back a nice dvd-r. When I put it in my dvdrom it acts like it's a winamp audio file. (and does nothing). Putting it into my TV's dvd player, it plays fine.

Did I do this bass ackwards? Can the dvd-r data be brought back into my PC for editing? (my pc is w98se, my dvdrom is liteon ltd163)

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20-Nov-2004, 10:38 PM #59
I think it acts as a winamp audio file because you specified those files to be played like that in your folder options. Maybe you should check there first to see if those settings are correct. Then I would recommend you trying other programs to to view such as divx or something. BTW, what file-type is it when its on ur dvd-r?
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29-Nov-2004, 01:55 PM #60
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Oh great Mulder!

I've been reading through this forum, and I have a suggestion that might make sense:

If you could create a thread (or several) and stick them at the top of the forum like your guide, so that the following could be compared by the various users on the forum:

Video Capture Hardware (internal/external; pci/agp; USB/Firewire)
Video Editing Software (what works with which OS, including Linux; How easy/hard are they to use; How their features compare; How buggy they are)
DVD (& CD) burning software (same as editing concerns above)

My reasoning is that on my first visits to the site (including the whole site for various support questions), I spent a lot of timelooking at previous posts to try NOT to ask the same lame newbie question that has probably been answered perfectly in one of the many screens of posts and replies. Since there are many areas of expertise converging here, grouping into coherent chunks might aid many and reduce duplication.

These three categories are what I'm trying to research right now, but there are probably many many categories fellow forum seekers could suggest that would be narrow enough to facilitate searches, but broad enough to encompass most general questions.

Whadya think?

Your humble supplicant,

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