[Victor Papa]

I had read the notes but obviously not taken them in. They're both on 'Workgroup' now and it appears sorted now - just did test print from XP to R360 on Vista..whilst listening to music from Vista... and waahey, it works.

A lot learnt for me tonight and another problem put to bed. I do have an unrelated issue that I think is to do with my CPU but that can wait for another day.

Thanks for your help Bob.

Kind regards.

[Bob Cerelli]

Good job. And you didn't need any wizards or anything. Actually like you said, you learned a lot.

[glewis]

What I don’t understand is why vista requires the machines to be in the same workgroup to share files in the first place? I can ping from my work’s, domain affiliated, machine to my xp box and from my domain machine to my vista box but I share files between them.
I turned off my anti virus and my firewall on both machine and still can’t see the other machine. I just don’t understand why Microsoft believes that all machines that share files will be on the same workgroup.

[TerryNet]

They need to be in the same workgroup to use features such as "view workgroup computers" and "My Network Places" (to view all shared folders in the workgroup).

I have no experience with Vista yet, but can assure you that with XP and earlier versions of Windows files can be shared with no regard for workgroup, except as noted above.

[glewis]

I am running it right now. I can type the name of my domain computer and get access to its file but when I go on to my domain computer and type the name of my vista machine it says that the computer can not be found.

[glewis]

Got it... Windows one care had its firewall turned off even though I disabled the firewall and windows defender.

[drewblood80]

Ok,
Today I tried to network my VISTA laptop with my XP workgroup (4 computers total)
After I lost the rest of my hair I never had, I got it, all by keeping it simple. My Vista could map to XP, but not XP to Vista.

First the BASICS:

1. Same workgroup, add TRUSTS to your FIREWALL (this will get people every time), I suggest not using the windows firewall or Norton ANYTHING (that is another blog altogether) I use Zone Alarm.

2. ON your VISTA computer Turn ON:
a) Network Discovery
b) File Sharing
c) Public folder Sharing (My preference was "Turn on sharing so any one with network access can open, change, and create files)

3. Make sure “Password Protected sharing" is OFF

Now I have heard about people needing the patch for XP so Vista can see them in its pretty map, I didn’t need that, but I always do my updates, so I might have it.

OK now make sure you can ping both ways, if you cannot check your firewall settings and WORKGROUP. Once you can ping continue. (Make sure your router IP is included in your trusted zone)

Open up C Drive> Users> Public (This is your default share folder)
Go to properties
Under ADVANCED SHARING make sure the "limit the number of simultaneous users to:"
is set to more than 1, because your login is already taken this one up!!!
You can also get to this by Control Panel> Admin tools> Computer Management>Expand "Shared Folders"> and in the right column right click "Public" and go to Properties> this will allow you to change the "allow this number of users" to more than 1
Maximum allowed is only set to 1 by default (this is from what I have been told)

Check your sharing and security just for argument sake and make sure EVERYONE HAS FULL PERMISSIONS.

My problem was that I could see the VISTA laptop when trying to map a drive under my XP computer, but nothing would show up when I tried to expand it.

The fix:
I just typed in the network path for the computer instead of browsing
Example:
\\myVISTAPAIN\Shared Pain
The first time it asked me for a password, which was the user/pass for my Vista computer and after that it was cake.
I went to the second XP machine (laptop) and mapped it with no problem!

Sorry it took so long to explain, but I hope you have fun mapping with your Vista/XP workgroup.

Thanks,
Drew
Network Technician,
Norfolk, VA

[DeadMnsChainGang]

Alright this is prob. gonna be long so grab a drink of choice

I have one PC and 2 Laptops on a network one of the Laptops is on Vista the other XP so isnt the PC.
Now i recently moved, Where i was before we used DSL it was a bit of a pain but we got it all networked..
Now ive moved on Cable and cant get the laptop w/Vista on the network.

Ping aint working from the laptop with vista or to it tried both..

They all have the same workgroup.

The folder i want to share on the Vista laptop is shared right.

Well that wasnt as long as i thought.....

[DeadMnsChainGang]

Also all 3 are connected to the router ( i thought that would help)...

[Bob Cerelli]

When you pinged the computers, and it didn't work, was that by IP and by Name?

Can you ping by IP?

[DeadMnsChainGang]

by name

[DeadMnsChainGang]

Alright just went to WIMIP.com and pinged the IP i got from that.
That worked.

[DeadMnsChainGang]

Now im not all to sure about the IP thing... But is the PC snd the Laptop gonna have the same IP ? (And to save a Q they do)..

Sorry 5 months and im going insane...

[Snowbound]

I'm brand new to this forum but have been reading away!

config: vista laptop, 2 XP desktops. Pull hair out trying to print from laptop to XP boxes. I followed all the items in post #22 from drewblood, lots of sharing things work much better now. The trusted computer in Norton was a problem, the LLTD upgrade has been installed, pings work (number and name), addresses look good, computer and workgroup names look good, and whatever I forgot after 8 hours of this madness.

Want to print on XP desktop from Vista laptop. Printers are older HP 5L on both desktops as well as a late model HP 1400 all in one. So an 'add printer' Vista searches and finds all the printers, click on the 1400. Wants to add the driver. click 'Install' gets "windows cannot connect to the printer. Operation could not be completed (error 0x00003e3)

Searching other forums and such indicates this may be a long time bug in Vista?

[DeadMnsChainGang]

Older printers WONT work on Vista... You have to get a Printer thats Vista compatible