[iopknuckles]

So about six months ago i moved my computer and xbox into my room. I ran a cable from one of my routers numbered ports up to my room where i put it in another routers number 1 port. from that router i ran 2 cables to my xbox and computer. I have the first router DHCP enabled set to 192.168.1.1 the second router is DHCP disabled and set to 192.168.1.254. This worked before and i never had any problems with it until today. Inernet just stopped working for my second router. The first one still supplies internet to a different computer. When i try to goto 192.168.1.254 in a brower to edit my second router it just displays a page about a successful apache web server instalation. When i ping from my second computer i get "192.168.1.254 - Unable to connect to host." Please help me fix my problem. I tried explaining it as best as i can. But if you have any more questions id be more than happy to answer. Thanks for the help.

[JohnWill]

I'd reset the secondary router and reconfigure, it appears it's configuration got corrupted. Here's my RX for connecting a secondary router.


Connecting two (or more) SOHO broadband routers together.

Note: The "primary" router can be an actual router, a software gateway like Microsoft Internet Connection Sharing, or a server connection that has the capability to supply more than one IP address using DHCP server capability. No changes are made to the primary "router" configuration.

Configure the IP address of the secondary router(s) to be in the same subnet as the primary router, but out of the range of the DHCP server in the primary router. For instance DHCP server addresses 192.168.0.2 through 192.168.0.100, I'd assign the secondary router 192.168.0.254 as it's IP address, 192.168.0.253 for another router, etc.

Note: Do this first, as you will have to reboot the computer to connect to the router again for the remaining changes.

Disable the DHCP server in the secondary router.

Setup the wireless section just the way you would if it was the primary router, channels, encryption, etc.

Connect from the primary router's LAN port to one of the LAN ports on the secondary router. If there is no uplink port and neither of the routers have auto-sensing ports, use a cross-over cable. Leave the WAN port unconnected!

This procedure bypasses the routing function (NAT layer) and configures the router as a switch (or wireless access point for wireless routers).

For reference, here's a link to a Typical example config using a Netgear router

[iopknuckles]

The problem is everytime i try to configure the second router it doesnt take me to the configuration page its take me to a page about apache web server being sucessfully installed. So i dont know how to configure my second router. And those were the exact settings i had except the first router didnt have a LAN port but the second one does. So should i put the cord in a numbered slot for the first one and the LAN one for the second one?
Thanks for the help

[JohnWill]

Reset the secondary router to factory defaults.

Disconnect the secondary router from EVERYTHING but a single cable from the computer you're using to configure it to one of the LAN/Network ports, NOT the WAN/Internet port.

This will not take you to an Apache web server unless the router is seriously screwed up!


Now, if you shared the make/model of the routers, modems, etc., we'd probably be of more help. The less information you provide, the less help we can be.

[iopknuckles]

I hooked up just one cable from the router to the computer im using. I entered 192.168.1.254 to configure the router but it just said the webpage cannot be displayed.

The first router that is currently working is a Linksys BEFSR41
The second router that isnt working is a Linksys BEFSR41 but it is an older version and im not sure how much older.

[JohnWill]

Well, 192.168.1.254 is not the default of any Linksys that I'm aware of, probably one of the issues here.


Reset the secondary router to factory defaults again "for sure".

Connect ONLY the computer to one of the LAN/Network ports, nothing else.

Restart the computer, then post the following information.

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt:

In the command prompt window that opens, type type the following command:

Note that there is a space before the /ALL, but there is NOT a space after the / in the following command.

IPCONFIG /ALL

Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter to copy the contents to the clipboard.
Paste the results in a message here.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.

[iopknuckles]

192.168.1.254 is what i set the secondary router to though so i could access both routers witout confusion.

But i reset the router and heres what ipconfig got:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MainPC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : san.rr.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : san.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-76-13-72-42
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 76.85.229.110
76.85.229.111
76.85.229.112
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:59:53 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:59:53 AM

[JohnWill]

I'd try the configuration again. If you have configured the secondary router properly for 192.168.1.254, you should be able to access it's configuration pages. I do that here, works fine.

[iopknuckles]

ok i reconfigured the first and second router again properly but it still doesnt work. Im getting the your modem or router is not avaliable message.

TO me it seems like the connection between the router 1 and 2 or the connection between router 2 and the computer are not working. But all the cords are plugged in.

[JohnWill]

I don't know what you're doing here, but that procedure has been used countless times here and by me in a variety of locations. It's never failed to work if done properly.

I have no idea what the "modem not available" message is, or which router you're seeing that from.

If you want us to help, you'll have to describe EXACTLY what you see verbatim and exactly how the devices are cabled. Clearly, something is wrong, but I'm not there to see what it is.

[iopknuckles]

I already explained exactly how they are set up. But you obviously dont understand so ill draw a picture.



Router 1 is configured:
IP- 192.168.1.1
DHCP Enabled- 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.100
Subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway- 192.168.1.1
DNS1- 76.85.229.110
2- 76.85.229.111

Second router is COnfigured-
IP- 192.168.1.254
DHCP Disabled assigns ip 192.168.1.254
Subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway- 192.168.1.1
DNS1- 76.85.229.110
2- 76.85.229.111

[JohnWill]

Did you make SURE that the cable between them is good? If neither router has auto-MDX ports, it must be a crossover cable. Are you seeing the connect lights on both connections between the routers?


Please run these ping tests from a computer on router 1 and on router 2.



Try these simple tests.

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD (COMMAND for W98/WME) to open a command prompt:

In the command prompt window that opens, type type the following commands one at a time, followed by the Enter key:

NOTE: For the items below in red surrounded with < >, see comments below for the actual information content, they are value substitutions from the previous IPCONFIG command output! Do NOT type <computer_IP_address> into the command, that won't work.

IPCONFIG /ALL

PING <computer_IP_address>

PING <default_gateway_address>

PING <dns_servers>

PING 206.190.60.37

PING yahoo.com

Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter to copy the contents to the clipboard.
Paste the results in a message here.

<computer_IP_address> - The IP Address of your computer, obtained from the IPCONFIG command above.

<default_gateway_address> - The IP address of the Default Gateway, obtained from the IPCONFIG command above.

<dns_servers> - The IP address of the first (or only) address for DNS Servers, obtained from the IPCONFIG command above.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.

[sdikevin]

Is the computer that is hooked to router one able to get on the internet?............. Router 1's default gateway should be the the public IP gave to it's wan port by the modem.

[iopknuckles]

Originally Posted by sdikevin

Is the computer that is hooked to router one able to get on the internet?............. Router 1's default gateway should be the the public IP gave to it's wan port by the modem.

yes the computer hooked up to router one can get on the internet

[sdikevin]

can you show us an ipconfig /all from the working computer?