Okay here's what happened. I changed the inf files in the wda driver and an atheros driver drivers (the atheros worked the best out of everything I have tried today). The inf files each had lines that stated vendor and device codes that were 168C and 0012,0013, etc.The problem vendor codes were easily changed, then I sent the device manager after them. The atheros first, device wont start; the wda next, it won't start either. I seem to remember reading something about the power light blinking somewhere, but can't find it again.
BUT I got the dang driver in!!, I guess I'll have to start a new thread on that one, or should I?