[midn8t]

I had a question thought I would run this around to people, I have two houses I want to connect with internet access the cable would half to run 200 feet from basement which I would install power out let to the next house which i would also install a power out let there and run 110 - 240 volts have not decide, through it which is what is recomended for etherenet over power line.


I am thinking about using this product the XAVB101

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...s/XAVB101.aspx

wich says it can handle 50,000 Square feet and run at speeds around 200 MBPS

Now what I am wondering about is, sqaure feet in a build is not the same as max distance it can run accross a cable.

my thoughts are in a house you have a outlet and then connect this device and then it run thro your fuse box and up to your upstairs room this I think is a shorter distance even tho you room could be quite a ways.

I am wondering if this works like a short range bomber using your power fuse box as a source to refuel to make the trip ?

dose any one know what the max distance a Ethernet over power can run over a single cable.

I am not intrest in running it through ethere house, I am going to run point A XAVB101 200 feet or so to point B which have anther XAVB101 and then just plug ethernet cable from a switch to both XAVB101 devices at each end.

I am thinking this should work but I am worryed about drop off of single over ethernet cable which can happen after a certain distance.

This be one Curcit connected to one transformer to one house but circut be ran Point A Building 1 Point B building 2

reason where looking into this is becuase its cheap and fast, we can do work our selfs so dose not cost anything except parts two female wall jacks 6$ or so power line cable run 200 feet 100$ to 150$ for cable.

[JohnWill]

Well, first off, if the two houses are on different power transformers, this won't have any chance of working. Truthfully, it probably has very little chance of working, even on the same transformer, normally going past the breaker box will put the brakes on.

Have you considered a wireless link?

[midn8t]

you wouldnt be going form one trans fromer to othere.

you just use transfrom to power it a power out let has two places to plug in to buttom plug female which connects to the fuse box to get power will say the top one to be use on circuit, you would be creating a single circuit from one house to othere building and you would not plug nothing elese but for the two devices so it be a straight brand new indpent circuit from one house to othere, which then at end of each female wall jack would be the device that would plug driectly into cat5 cable.

its same prince able as if it was inside house one house or one building your not connect to two fuseboxes or transfromers.

think of one house like a barn or a shed with no power to it. you be running a ciruct to that building. thats exactly what be happening here.

[JohnWill]

I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

[midn8t]

why would you connect one circuit to two transfromer why would you be connecting to a transfromer at all houses run from the street transfromer to a fusebox in basement.

[midn8t]

this is all besides point dose any one know max distance information can run across powerline from one device to othere on a straight path ?

[JohnWill]

I'm talking about the power company transformer! A house (or a group of houses) is connected to a single power transformer.

[Tagware]

Well being in the UK. It might be different. But the house next door is likely to be on a different phase to you. As they have generally 3 to choose from. That's why network engineers use Fiber between buildings. Plus it's nice watching sparks fly when two supplies on different phases are connected!

[midn8t]

um okay none of this has to do with anything I was talking about.

and is all illrevent where not running the network down the power companys powerlines its not going thro there transfromers none of this is relevent.

where not runnign network thro power company crape like i said its our own crape.

lol

A from the power companys transfromer to our fuse box in the basement of a house to a new Circuit that will run from point A 200 Feet to Point B.

thats all thats involled nothing elese period. will the connection work 200 feet. thats all I asked nothing elese.

I just put othere stuff in so that, people get idea of what it was being used for.

Powerline connection internet will work with in 50k squre feet , and it will run at 200 mbps but, I just not sure how it works length wise going thro a cable feet wise dose it die out packet lose or dose it hold strong for longer distance then ethernet cable and if so how far will it hold its strength.


powerline over internet works even thro fuse boxes which connect diffrent cirucits inside house.


a wall out yet has two female prongs in usa anyways.

you run line from Fuse the line would run to a female wall mount which have the, plugs female plags that you plug your tv or what ever into.

this may diff in othere countrys. but idea is same i belive.

the top or buttom wall mount or jacket would have incommoing line from, the fuse the othere prong in the jack would go to a diffrent wall jacket in the house and it would keep running like this bunny hopping from one outlet to anthere throught out the whole house.

now the fuse box runs pretty much has one line running from it to the power company box meter out side.

the fuse box allows for mutil cicutirs that run for example up stairs living room down stairs bedroom, so forth you do not want to many things rooms on one ciruit cuz then you be blowing the fuse all time and having to run down stairs to turn it back on.


thats how it works idiots guide kinda in america.


what where doing is going from one house running a from fuse box new line to wall outlet from one house thro the ground to othere house which will go driect to anthere wall out let nothing elese happening just that.

problem is that its 200 feet so i am wondering if packet drop off. ?

[zx10guy]

Are you proposing running a dedicated electrical line between houses?

[midn8t]

yes just using one fuse box that connects to one engery metter that just connects to one transfromer that will not run the internet throw any of that stuff.

yets say you had a huge house, and your power line cicurit ran from your living room thro your basement thro your house into your kitch and wrapped around your diinning room table and up into your bedroom and then back down into your back yard then back around to you swimming pool just how far can the one ciruit or line go. befor the internet packets start to drop off ?

for example if you run ethernet cable from point a to point b 1000 feet your going have problems.

is it the same with internet over powerline ?

I can not really find any information on specs on devices how long many feet can cables run.

they all say this device will work up to sqaure feet but sqaure feet is way diffrent then straight line...

the netgear one i stated above says it works up to 50,000 sqaure feet well the dose that mean.

some cables in a house might be on diffrent curits that maybe shorter or longer then otheres and what about bettween buildings like i said even if there on same circuit and or a dedicated line thats just plain feet not sqaure feet.

all the networking eqqupiment has sqaure feet and places i call like neatgear do not seem to be able to give straight answear. I ask well how long can cable run befor it becomes a problem.

every one seems to go off talking about estimated sqaure feet, its like no one has tryed one of these devices using a rife appoarch to see how far packet can travel down a cable.

I would thought that this information would be aviable some where or that some one would know this for sure. ?

[zx10guy]

If you're going to run an electrical line, you're better off using the effort to just pull Cat5e/6 between the houses. The spec for Cat5e/6 calls for a maximum run of approximately 330ft. You're well within that spec with the 200 ft distance. I would also pull at least 2 lines.

[midn8t]

well I was thinking of this but the house is so old in future that I was thinking about it with ethernet but at sametime I just kinda wanted to have extra dedicated powerline going up to house I supose I could pull both but I figured kill two birds with one stone. plus in house I am not going be running new wires thro the house.

and I was thinking also if it works I can run internet to the barn and workshop thro the powerlines that are ran there also.even if speed drops in half it still be faster then cat5 not as fast as cat six but be honest internet speeds are usally only max 8 mbps anyways into the out side world so thats not big deal.

[JohnWill]

GAD, I'd sure run the cable, though I'd also take precautions to avoid ground potential and lightning issues. I can't imagine how many building codes you are violating by running power between houses!

[zx10guy]

So does this house have its own dedicated feed from the power company? Are you looking to just pull a single circuit which is fed by the other house's service? If you do this, you'll probably be in violation of any building codes for your area. I've never heard of a dedicated line being pulled to two independent living structures. The only time I have seen this permissible is if the structure is considered a sub structure to the house you are feeding it from ie a shed.