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20-Nov-2009, 08:21 AM #16
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Do you have file sharing enabled in Network and Sharing Center?
Yes

Looks like the XP PC files are only shared when both firewalls are turned off.

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20-Nov-2009, 03:02 PM #17
Well, another point is that Vista defaults to inhibiting file sharing if you don't have a passworded account.

As far as the firewall issue, you have to put your LAN subnet in the trusted zone, that should solve that issue.
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Well, another point is that Vista defaults to inhibiting file sharing if you don't have a passworded account.

As far as the firewall issue, you have to put your LAN subnet in the trusted zone, that should solve that issue.
OK I setup the Visa password account, and with the firewalls disabled, the file sharing icon on the Vista hard drive is still greyed.
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21-Nov-2009, 04:30 PM #19
Let's see this from the Vista machine.

Check your Services are Started on all PCs:
  • COM+ Event System (for WZC issues)
  • Computer Browser
  • DHCP Client
  • DNS Client
  • Network Connections
  • Network Location Awareness
  • Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
  • Server
  • TCP/IP Netbios helper
  • Wireless Zero Configuration (XP wireless configurations only)
  • WLAN AutoConfig (Vista wireless configurations only)
  • Workstation

Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.

All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic (or perhaps manual).

If a service is not running, open it's properties and check the dependencies. Check each of the dependencies and see which one is preventing the service from running. Checking the event log is also a good idea here, there may be clues to what is failing.




And this as well.

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt:

In the command prompt window that opens, type type the following commands, one at a time, followed by the Enter key:

Note that there is a space before the -n or the /ALL, but there is NOT a space after the - or / in the following commands.

NBTSTAT -n

IPCONFIG /ALL


Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter to copy the contents to the clipboard.
Paste the results in a message here.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.
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24-Nov-2009, 01:39 PM #20
This is the Visa PC

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Frank>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.0.6] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
FRANK-PC <00> UNIQUE Registered
WORKGROUP <00> GROUP Registered
WORKGROUP <1E> GROUP Registered
FRANK-PC <20> UNIQUE Registered
WORKGROUP <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

C:\Users\Frank>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Frank-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce 10/100 Mbps Ethernet
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-23-54-1F-A1-78
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::591a:3fea:a3d1:f733%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.6(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : November-24-09 1:54:52 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : November-25-09 1:54:52 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 251666965
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-10-6C-77-42-00-23-54-1F-A1-78

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.248.154.22
206.248.154.170
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\Users\Frank>
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24-Nov-2009, 01:50 PM #21
Did you check all the services on both machines, you didn't mention that in your post?


Check your Services are Started on all PCs:
  • COM+ Event System (for WZC issues)
  • Computer Browser
  • DHCP Client
  • DNS Client
  • Network Connections
  • Network Location Awareness
  • Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
  • Server
  • TCP/IP Netbios helper
  • Wireless Zero Configuration (XP wireless configurations only)
  • WLAN AutoConfig (Vista wireless configurations only)
  • Workstation

Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.

All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic (or perhaps manual).

If a service is not running, open it's properties and check the dependencies. Check each of the dependencies and see which one is preventing the service from running. Checking the event log is also a good idea here, there may be clues to what is failing.
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24-Nov-2009, 01:59 PM #22
I am unable to connect to Internet on the XP machine, but the services you indicated are started.
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24-Nov-2009, 02:04 PM #23
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All computers should be in the same workgroup for computer browsing to function properly. File & Print Sharing has to be enabled on any computer you wish to share files or printers from. You also need to actually share the resource in question from My Computer, right click on the drive/printer/folder, and select sharing.
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If you encounter difficulties accessing computers that are visible in Network Places (Network and Sharing Center in Vista), make sure the computer being accessed has an account with the same name/password as the system connecting to it uses to login. NOTE: Vista's default is to require a password on the account to enable file/print sharing.
Not sure what you mean? The XP machine needs to have a password and the same as Vista PC?

Right now the XP machine cannot connect to internet but the Network area does have the one hard drive as shared, but I do not see that on the Vista PC.

I am using a Wireless Router but do have ethernet cables for both connected and I have the services setup to start wireless setting for both.
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24-Nov-2009, 02:19 PM #24
OK the Vista machine is accessing the XP files.

from the XP:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\test>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.0.2] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
XPMACHINE <00> UNIQUE Registered
WORKGROUP <00> GROUP Registered
XPMACHINE <20> UNIQUE Registered
WORKGROUP <1E> GROUP Registered

C:\Documents and Settings\test>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : XPMACHINE
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-07-95-B4-AC-F2
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.248.154.22
206.248.154.170
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:21:41
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, February 08, 2002 9:21:41 PM


C:\Documents and Settings\test>
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24-Nov-2009, 02:24 PM #25
OK. I have a different (older version) of bitdefender on XP machine, so will load the same version as the Vista PC.
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24-Nov-2009, 05:15 PM #26
Disable ALL firewalls to get it working, then you can try to get them configured as a separate step.
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