[happy wander]

What can you expect Steve afterall alot of our Royality are part French and German afterall, when the normans invaded us in 1066 after that we never had a true English king on our throne, so I suppose we cant really say much. Wasn't it a Norman or French king who went to the crusades and fought against muslims dear Richard the Lionheart, he spent most of his rule in the holy land fighting for a cause, much like our dear Tony, he spends most of his time in other countries much like Richard. Alot say now that we should never of dug a tunnel under the English Channel, but alot of illegal immigrants wouldnt agree on that, the french are laughing at us because most of them are in our country now instead of staying in France where they arent wanted. They must be laughing at us like mad. I have never travelled under the tunnel always thought it was a terrorists dream, its a wonder no one has ever tried to blow it up now I know why. Its cos all the terrorists are here in England, its no wonder we havent had any attacks here yet.

[happy wander]

thanks Steve, I agree I would of loved to have watched that documentary on channel 4 on waterloo I was out last night and missed it, I love programs on that sort of thing. thanks for the link btw it was kind of you to post it.
Did you watch the one on the battle of balaclava, that was very interesting I loved how they portrayed it, there have been some good history programs on 4 lately did you see the one on USS Indianopolis the other night?

I agree with Randy's comments. Thank you for posting.

Penny

You are funny, Angel

[Moby]

$teve, Happy Wander, there's no French in you lot, Angles from north germany, Saxons from north germany (Anglo Saxon) Jutes from present day Jutland - North of Germany, Vikings from the Scandanavian countries - Germanic, Normans descended from the Norsemen (where the word Norman comes from) = vikings = German. You're all bloody Germans the lot of you!
Me on the other hand, well all I can say is
" Oi, you lot, get off my bloody land!!"

[angelize56]

<b>LIST OF FAMOUS FRENCH PEOPLE</b>

1. Albert Schweitzer - Famous doctor who worked in Africa and won Nobel Peace Prize

2. Anne de Bretagne - Queen of France whose arranged marriage made Britanny a part of France.

3. Antoine de St. Exupery - French writer of this century: Le Petit Prince

4. Auguste Rodin - French sculptor whose famous works are The Kiss and TheThinker

5. Catherine de Médicis - Wife of Henri II, mother of three French kings

6. Charlemagne - Kings of the Franks who created a huge empire

7. Charles DeGaulle - Leader of the French Resistance who became President of France

8. Charles Martel - King of the Franks and grandfather of Charlemagne

9. Coco Chanel - Fashion designer and creator of perfumes (Chanel #5)

10. Edgar Degas - Painter famous for his ballerinas

11. Denis Pepin - Invented the steam engine

12. René Descartes - French philosopher and mathematician who created analytical geometry

13. Denis Diderot - Wrote the first encyclopedia

14. Joseph Guillotin - Doctor who invented the guillotine

15. Gustave Eiffel - Designed and created the Eiffel Tower

16. Ferdinand de Lesseps - Built the Suez Canal and started the Panama Canal

17. Général Ferdinand Foch - Famous World War I general

18. Général Philippe Pétain - Famous World War I general who "governed" France during German occupation of World War II

19. George Sand - Female writer during 1800’s who was into women’s liberation. She led a wild life for her time.

20. Johannes Gutenberg - Inventor of the printing press. The Germans claim this man too because he lived in Strasbourg.

21. Hector Berlioz - French composer who wrote the Symphonie Fantastique

22. Georges Bizet - French composer who wrote the opera Carmen

23. Jacques Costeau - Underwater explorer who invented the aqua lung

24. Jean Moulin - Founder of the French Resistance during World War II. He was tortured to death by the Germans.

25. Jeanne d’Arc - Patron saint of France. Led the French against the British at Orléans. She was burned at the stake by the British at Rouen.

26. Josephine - Wife of Napoleon

27. Antoine Lavoisior - Creator of modern chemistry

28. Les Frères Lumière - Inventors of modern cinema

29. Les Frères Montgolfier - Developed hot air balloon flight in 1783 (long before the Wright Brothers!)

30. <b>Louis Pasteur - Doctor who developed vaccines and pasteurization.</b>

31. Louis XIV - The Sun King

32. Madame de Sevigne (and the salons) - French write of the 1600’s (read up on the salons - a very interesting social period)

33. Edouard Manet - French Impressionist painter

34. <b>Madame Curie - Discovered x-rays.</b>

35. Marie Antoinette - French queen who lost her head during the French Revolution

36. Molière - Most famous French playwright

37. Claude Monet - French Impressionist painter

38. Napoleon Bonaparte - General and emperor of France

39. Blaise Pascal - Extremely famous mathematician and philosopher who made the first calculator and was born in 1623!

40. Pierre de Coubertin - Founder of the modern-day Olympics

41. Renault - started the Renault cars

42. Richelieu - Cardinal who was very powerful politically during the reign of Louis XIII

43. Ste. Bernadette - Saint whose visions of Mary led to Lourdes

44. <b>Ste. Thérèse de Liseux - Saint whose body has not decayed in over 150 years.</B>

45. Vercingetorix - Leader of the Gauls who fought against Caesar

46. <b>Vincent de Paul - Priest who came up with the idea of hospitals.</b>

47. Yves St. Laurent - French fashion designer

48. Victor Hugo - 19th century French poet and writer: The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Les Misérables

[$teve]

angel.....i cant believe you missed off philippe de brassiere
(*)(*)

[happy wander]

oooo laa laa those frenchies fancy them inventing them devices for uplifting boobs (*)(*)

[$teve]

yes........he was actually neck and neck with a german named............wait for it.......OTTO TITTSLING

from where the phrase "TIT SLING" cometh.
(o)(o)

so ladies.......when someone says to you "nice tit sling"
he is only being historically correct.

[$teve]

and heres another one for your perusal.
SIR THOMAS CRAPPER
<img src=http://forums2.techguy.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=788307>

complete with website:http://www.theplumber.com/poll.html

[happy wander]

trust them crazy germans, I call em over shoulder boulder holders ( . ) ( . )


oh the toilet or loo blokie, good ole sir crapper, what would we of done with out his invention?

[$teve]

we wouldve still been crapping in the gutter................ like the iraqi`s

[jakoval]

Originally posted by steamwiz:
How many of those singing the praises of the french think Britain and America are being nasty to poor old saddam

You're missing the point. How about opening your mind (one end only, please) and re-reading RandyG's post. Derogatory stereotyping (whether racial, cultural, sexual or religious) is not productive and has no place here.

[AlbertB]

In response to the vile accusations of racial impurity hurled by Moby in his recent post, I feel impelled to respond -

1000 BC: THE IRON AGE
It was not until the time of the Romans that written history began in and about Britain. Unfortunately this was lost on the indigenous populations as in Britain at the time noone could read. For information on the earliest settlements, we have to look to our archaeologists. From them and Tony Robinson we learn that by 1000 BC, the Iron Age proper had arrived in what is now Wales where its people grouped themselves into large hill forts for protection; practiced mixed, settled farming, but also worked extensive copper mines. Many of these impressive hill forts remain in Wales, some of them, such as Tre'r Cewri atop Yr Eifl Mountain in Gwynedd, and Pwlldrthns:yuwmv@djr Bra$kn* above the Vale of mYH8( @ )( @ )£x>--+^e were still occupied during the Roman invasions in the first century AD, where the origins of the defensive insult "Bite my Celtic wind, you snail munching Eytie!" and the dropping of the big dead cow on the enemy's head were to be found.

500-100 BC: THE CELTS ARRIVE, (just in time for tea)
It was at this time that the Celtic languages arrived in Britain, probably introduced by small groups of migrants who became culturally dominant in their new homelands, and whose culture formed part of a great unified Celtic "empire" encompassing many different peoples all over Northern Europe. The Greeks called these people, with their organized culture and developed social structure Keltoi, the Romans called them Celtai, either way it still almost spells a very rude word and coined the curious phrase "Cunning Stelts".

In spite of the fact that they were perhaps the most powerful people in much of Europe in 300 BC, with lands stretching from Anatolia in the East to Ireland in the West, the Celts were unable, as in modern day Rugby Union, to prevent intertribal warfare. Their total lack of political unity, (both on and off the field), despite their fierceness in battle, (both on and off the field), ultimately led to their defeat and subjugation, (both on and off the field), by the much better disciplined armies of Rome and the other even better teams of the other five nations. Even the Celtic languages on Continental Europe eventually gave way to those stemming from Latin. But in Britain, at least for a few hundred years after the Roman victories on mainland Europe, the Celts held on to much of their customs and especially to their distinctive language (?) which has survived today as Welsh.

The language of most of Britain was derived from a branch of Celtic known as Brythonic: it later gave rise to Welsh, Cornish and Breton (these differ from the Celtic languages derived from Goidelic, namely Irish, Scots Gaelic and Manx). Along with the new languages, new religions entered Britain, particularly that of the Druids, the guardians of traditions and learning. The Druids glorified the pursuits of war, feasting and horsemanship, but this last has all but died out due to the short stature of the average Welshman, the somewhat taller stature of the average Welsh Cob, and the modern shift towards the sheep as a night companion. They controlled the calendar and the planting of crops, and they presided over the religious festivals and rituals that honored local deities, or "Dai Tease" as he became known in the Swansea docks. Thus they constituted the first target for the invading Roman legions, or ticked off Reps out for someone to kick.

Remaining the most pure of the British tribal cultures, the Welsh Celts still hang on to their traditional ideals and proclivities. So many years of such extreme purity of race with its inevitable restriction on the gene pool, coupled with a weakness for the lowest things in life, have led to one sadly inevitable conclusion - CHRONIC WELSH INBREEDING OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

[Moby]

Albert you have cast an enormous aspersion against the character of my great great great great grandfather. His name if I recall was Dad ap Dad ap Dad ap Dad ap Dad. I admit he was a bit of a cupid stunt but also a cunning linguist to boot. He read profusely and was well aware of the dangers of inter coital affairs but still thought it a better risk than shagging a German.
Then one day he met someone, someone he loved dearly, someone he wanted to spend the rest of his life with, she of the stupidly cunning. . . .er. . . stunningly cupid good looks and blondish Celtic hair. He went to great great lengths to check out her racial and family roots. Firstly she wasn't German - phew!
He travelled far amongst the land to see if anyone had news of her father and her father's father and her father's father's father. This proved easy has he too was called Dad ap Dad ap Dad. Everyone knew of such a person. The historical roots of this vision of beauty would not restict the future plans of this great man. The wedding went ahead. Due to his exhaustive research, extensive travels, relentless drive, unflinching resolve, stoic steadfast and heroic quest for the truth, your aspersion against him is unfounded. How dare you generalise in such a way.
I can categorically, absolutely, without doubt tell you whilst looking you square in the eye, that he was NOT related to that sheep!

[AlbertB]

Moby.

How is it that even when the Welsh are discussing the merits of their forefathers sheep sh***ing antics, it still bloody well sounds as musical as Richard Burton reciting Dylan Thomas?

"And there could I marvel my birthday
Away but the weather turned around. And the true
Joy of the long dead child sang burning
In the sun."

You have inherited that way with the language from (Dad(ap Dad)^X), you silver tongued cavalier you!