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01-Aug-2003, 03:12 PM #1
Why do HP computers suck????
Why do HP computers suck???? thats what I've been woundering since my friend and my one teacher both have HP computers which always have to go and get fixed every 6 months or so.

so why are they soo bad when they use to be soo good back in the day.
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01-Aug-2003, 03:29 PM #2
It's pretty simple. When you make something inexpensive, companies tend to save a penny here and save a penny there, at the expensive of future trouble and incompatibility.
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01-Aug-2003, 03:45 PM #3
Howdy

maybe I got lucky...I have 4 year old HP that has never even hic-uped

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01-Aug-2003, 03:53 PM #4
Main reasons.

limited upgradeability.
sold with low memory
slow drives, integrated video, sound. (recently saw a 2.4ghz athlon sold with a 5400rpm drive, cheap chipset motherboard, and integrated cheap video and sound). My 900mhz was probably faster.
Non-standard cases / power supplies
proprietary bios


Just about covers it. They don't really suck, it's just that they are built for the masses and not for techy people. Load linux on it and give it to grandpa to read his e-mail on.
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01-Aug-2003, 06:49 PM #5
Simple.

Because as part of Carly's "Rationalistion" process, they are now made in Tapei, Taiwan by various contract manufacturers (such as Mitec) who simply stick on a badge for whoever they are producing that run.

Components are sourced in Asia and as gotrudedude pointed out, they use integrated sound and video on the Mboard: the cheapskate route.

Buy Dell, the easiest to upgrade and rectify: opening the case on a Dell tower has to be the simplest, ever.

And I just love the way that carriers for extra drives are already inserted and the cabling is all neatly clipped and secured, unlike many others (including HP!), here the cabling looks like a rat's nest!
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01-Aug-2003, 09:37 PM #6
HP systems suck because HP has an ivory tower mentality. The result was that they never fully grasped the importance of compatibility in PC's, and never really understood the PC marketplace. The current upgradability issue is just another manifestation of this problem.

The shift towards Taiwanese made components started long before HP was hit by Hurricane Carly. Switching to clone components actually improved HP's product line, due to a significant improvement in hardware compatibility. Prior to this, HP designed much of their own hardware, which was about as PC compatible as an IBM mainframe.

IMO Dells are a lot better, for the reasons Paquadez noted. Dells contain a lot of Asian made components, too. The difference is that they use high quality components instead of cheap junk.
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01-Aug-2003, 09:39 PM #7
Try getting an Emachine.

Can't even upgrade it, they locked it up
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01-Aug-2003, 09:46 PM #8
You mean they deliberately made it so that it couldn't be upgraded? That would be pretty bad.
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01-Aug-2003, 10:04 PM #9
Yeah they did
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01-Aug-2003, 10:07 PM #10
i have a hp p3 500 that has ran since the p3 500 was the latest thing

but i wouldnt buy another one
built my next one
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02-Aug-2003, 05:04 AM #11
Upgrading 486 and early Pentium Compaqs was just as bad.................. you had to buy specialist Compaq kit.
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02-Aug-2003, 05:13 AM #12
Hello,

My first computer (on my third now) was an HP and I had no problems at all. It was pretty basic but did what I needed at the time.

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02-Aug-2003, 08:18 AM #13
Hello onna


Welcome to TSG.

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so why are they soo bad when they use to be soo good back in the day.
The above reasons and because they think they profit more from quanity sales than quality sales(seems to work, too)

example-laptops, many HP's in recent years have been burning the backlight out of the screen. A known flaw . Do they fix it, NO. Out of warrenty, this is a $600 repair thru HP.
At HP's owners forum, this is still a topic, even on new laptops.

Will I buy another HP product?

NO....
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02-Aug-2003, 12:07 PM #14
Made in Taiwan again, Stoner!

A handfull of companies makes for most majors including HP.........................need I say more.

Dell, of course, produce from their own facilities in (three now isn't it?) centres, Malaysia, USA HQ and Ireland.

They insist that all major component suppliers have their supply facility within something like 20KM from the Dell facility, to facilitate rapid component deliveries.

Dell operate a Just In Time (JIT) manufacturing philosophy and have cut the build time down now to six hours from the time the order comes in!

No wonder they are so successful!

We now buy nothing else..................................
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02-Aug-2003, 04:18 PM #15
There are no bad computers - just operators! If you don't believe me, just ask HP!
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