[jonasdatum]

Hello people,

Ok I have an update on my id theft situation. One I was able to call yesterday to confirm my case number. Then I submitted my complaint to the FTC.

Now here's where the plot thickens. I went online today to amongst other things update some data on my phone service. I remembered that they offered a phone number lookup service I figured why not check out this number on my credit report that is unknown to me. I never had it in my life. Ladies and gentlemen you wouldn't believe my amazement. The name and address on that listing was way different than the listing on the www.superpages.com reverse lookup.

What makes it even more astounding was that I recognized some of the addresse's cross streets and nearby avenues. When I did a "driving directions" with a map site my suspicions were correct, right down to the estimated distance! The most direct route, which was displayed on the map, is the same way I go to work from my house.

Too much of a coincidence isn't it?

[Rockn]

Do you by chance have a wireless network?

[jonasdatum]

Originally posted by Rockn:
Do you by chance have a wireless network?

Thanks for the reply,

LOL, no. I don't. I have a DSL connect and I share it between two computers with a crossover cable. Two firewalls running @ any given time. Also, my antivirus scanner that has on occasion picked up a virus and I've either cleaned or destroyed the file.

[CyBerAliEn]

Sounds interesting.

Perhaps you dropped something or such on your way to work?

Or maybe paid for something along the way at some point and the clerk wrote down your info from your ID/credit card/etc?

You may want to consider letting the proper authority know what you found out.

[Rockn]

It's originating from inside your house...leave as quickly as possible...too late. Someone has probably cloned your cell phone and is using your account. They clone your number, sell the phone or charge people to use it to make long distance calls on it.

What Is Cell Phone Cloning Fraud?

Every cell phone is supposed to have a unique factory-set electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN). A cloned cell phone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the ESN and MIN belonging to another (legitimate) cell phone. Unscrupulous people can obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the radio wave transmissions from the cell phones of legitimate subscribers. After cloning, both the legitimate and the fraudulent cell phones have the same ESN/MIN combination and cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cell phone from the legitimate one. The legitimate phone user then gets billed for the cloned phone's calls. Call your carrier if you think you have been a victim of cloning fraud.

[CyBerAliEn]

Rockn:

It sounded to me like whoever was doing the fraudulent activity happened to use a phone number that is along the path that jonusdatum takes to work.

What does that have to do with a cellphone, or 'cellphone cloning'?

[jonasdatum]

Originally posted by Rockn:
It's originating from inside your house...leave as quickly as possible...too late. Someone has probably cloned your cell phone and is using your account. They clone your number, sell the phone or charge people to use it to make long distance calls on it.

What Is Cell Phone Cloning Fraud?

Every cell phone is supposed to have a unique factory-set electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN). A cloned cell phone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the ESN and MIN belonging to another (legitimate) cell phone. Unscrupulous people can obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the radio wave transmissions from the cell phones of legitimate subscribers. After cloning, both the legitimate and the fraudulent cell phones have the same ESN/MIN combination and cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cell phone from the legitimate one. The legitimate phone user then gets billed for the cloned phone's calls. Call your carrier if you think you have been a victim of cloning fraud.

Hello,

Dude, I don't have a cell phone. However, your data on the Cell Phone Cloning is insightful.

[Rockn]

"4/11/2004 - I received two cell phone bills with two account numbers. It appears that they have the same main number though. The account was made with my name minus my middle initial and my social security number. Since I've only seen a few articles on the news or Internet, I figured I'd go to the one place that you can always trust www.techtv.com. There I found this article "Cat's Clicks: Online Credit Reports" [http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/c...3580372,00.html].
There they gave me the basic steps on what to do to protect my credit and I went from there"

You do now.

[CyBerAliEn]

All that says is that somebody else setup a cellphone (not cloning, though it is possible that they could potentially do that, but that itself isn't a problem of jonas) with jonasdatum's name. Which is, as the topic of the thread says, fraudulent activity; not cell phone cloning.

[jonasdatum]

Hello,

Yesterday was a somewhat prosperous evening. I went to get the second wave of letters to the cell company notarized. Then when I got home I received the two-delivery confirmations for the previous letters the same night. Lol, then I got a call from a Detective regarding my case.

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What we discussed both @ the station and on the phone: While on the phone he told me in a nutshell was that somebody may have just been working for a credit firm and sold my data (probably some youth). When I was there he told me that the bills were activation charges. Which he suggested that people may be swapping phones and perhaps even using the same unique ID number and each phone and doing a little cloning.
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After 10 minutes of conversation we agreed that I would come down to bring more evidence. However, after I got down there and waited for 25 minutes, I discovered that I left the Experian credit report (the one he requested during our phone conversation) @ home. Also, I forgot another letter I neglected to mention. So now I have to take 45 minutes out of my life today and run back there to deliver copies of the data. Which by the way is killing my old canon printer (scanned the docs, now I must print).

Should I send the two notarized letters regarding my other lapse in diligence or should I wait for the Detective to make some progress?


Thank you all for your assistance!

[jonasdatum]

Hello,

It' is April 12th and there is no new bill from the cell phone company. I think between me and the Detective, we have put a stop to it as of late. Hopefully the threat will not rise again. I have to try to contact the Detective today to check my case status.

This situation can't yet be considered resolved!

[jonasdatum]

Hello,

I called the cell phone company yesterday. According to them all the accounts were closed and reported as fraud. So between my letters and the detective, they got the message. However, I still haven't recieved the call-records. Been trying to reach the detective, but I still haven't reached him.

[lighthouse]

I got a couple of letters once form a Credit card protection company for 2 people who've never lived at my address at all. I contacted the company for any info - and they referred me to the bank the accounts were alledgedly held at, who in turn told me that the correspondance was simply circulars generated by their marketting department. Does raise the question - how they had those 2 as living at my address in the first place though doesn't it! Also - if you get the wrong poll cards in the post before an election - do worry, because it affects how you interact with any company, research organisation, or Political groups that buy and use the electoral role as a base for their operations. It could have effects on your life a bit more sublime than simply not being able to vote that year.

[jonasdatum]

Hello.

I have yet to order a new credit report, but yesterday I recieved a call from one of my credit card companies. This the 8th time in half as many months that they've offered me "credit protector" coverage. LOL, if keep having credit balance on my account [credit meaing that I paid what I owed but paid to much], then I think I would be smart enough not to use the card if I actually couldn't pay the bill right?

Well that is part of the problem with americans they think as credit cards as money. THEY ARE NOT! LOL, probably why the(se) *******(s) chose my SS# anyway. Because when they say my credit history they new my "credit score" had to be decent if not impressive for someone in their mid 20s.

Sorry got on a tangent.... again....

[jonasdatum]

Hello.

Yea, it's been a while. The worlds been asking much of me. School and stuff. As for my idenity theft situation, well I am going to "try" to reach the detective tonight. I've called about 5 times since the last post, but he was never there. Hopefully I'll have better luck.

For you see there is still a matter of the "LAN" line number on one of my credit reports. I surmise that the Detective would have found that odd in itself and was a good lead for him. Especially when I told him I discovered two IDs on the phone number via my own reaseach.

Then I have to order new credit reports. Just to make sure there aren't any further anomolies!

Anything else anybody would like to contribute? Let's get these cooks and put them away for good!