[Shamou]

Originally Posted by valis
that almost sounds NON-religious,

...I would not call it religious either... I call it spiritual...

...however, I would appreciate it if you gave us your definition of 'religious'... ...and that is an honest question... not a sneaky bait...

[JEBWrench]

To the etymology-mobile!

Religion:

c.1200, "state of life bound by monastic vows," also "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," from Anglo-Fr. religiun (11c.), from O.Fr. religion "religious community," from L. religionem (nom. religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods," in L.L. "monastic life" (5c.); according to Cicero, derived from relegare "go through again, read again," from re- "again" + legere "read". However, popular etymology among the later ancients (and many modern writers) connects it with religare "to bind fast", via notion of "place an obligation on," or "bond between humans and gods." Another possible origin is religiens "careful," opposite of negligens. Meaning "particular system of faith" is recorded from c.1300.

Modern sense of "recognition of, obedience to, and worship of a higher, unseen power" is from 1535. Religious is first recorded c.1225. Transfered sense of "scrupulous, exact" is recorded from 1599.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by JEBWrench
So... What's that show? According to the words, religion appears to focus on the higher power, while spirituality focuses on the soul itself.

...if those references are any indication of the way you would give instructions on how to get to a particular place... I can tell you right now... I'd be lost before before I started...

...those references are all Chinese to me...

[JEBWrench]

I edited out the Spirituality part, as it wasn't a direct reference to the question and hand, and I forgot which thread I was in.

[JEBWrench]

Originally Posted by Shamou

...those references are all Chinese to me...

Latin, mostly.

[valis]

religious, to me, is very similar to spiritual. Ask my sister, and you will get a very different answer, as she is devout Roman Catholic, and religion means mass thrice weekly and all the other accoutrements that go along with that particular faith. I am more of the 'laid-back' type, and have never really understood why a God would require me to sing to Him, as that is painful at best (not a good singer here - but what I lack in quality I make up in quantity, as I am rather loud), so I talk to him in my own special way.

I know it's not sneaky, just an honest question. Hope I was clear enough.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by valis
Hope I was clear enough.

...very clear and well expressed my friend...

Originally Posted by valis
to me that almost sounds NON-religious, essentially the power of positive thinking,

...I must say that I never expected that one... and that I had to think about it... and it came out this way:

Positive thinking = Power of the will
Spirituality = Power of Faith

Very different animals... positive thinking summons all your intellectual and physical resources... whereas Spirituality deals with the relationship between God and your soul...

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by JEBWrench

I edited out the Spirituality part, as it wasn't a direct reference to the question and hand, and I forgot which thread I was in.

...you remind me of the guy who comes home with lipstick on his collar and tries to explain it to his wife...

...organized confusion to create diversion which will avert attention the the point in question...

[JEBWrench]

Originally Posted by Shamou

...you remind me of the guy who comes home with lipstick on his collar and tries to explain it to his wife...

...organized confusion to create diversion which will avert attention the the point in question...

Actually, I tried to eschew said obfuscation after realizing how misleading my original post was for this thread.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by JEBWrench

Actually, I tried to eschew said obfuscation after realizing how misleading my original post was for this thread.

...man... we're sharp... now if we could make sense....

[JEBWrench]

Everything I say makes perfect sense in my head.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by JEBWrench

Everything I say makes perfect sense in my head.

[foneguy9]

I firmly believe we all have free will. We make the decisions that will influence who we become and what we do with our lives.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by Shamou

...you remind me of the guy who comes home with lipstick on his collar and tries to explain it to his wife...

No kidding--I don't know how many times I asked moonmist to stop wearing lipstick!

[JEBWrench]

Originally Posted by Mulder

No kidding--I don't know how many times I asked moonmist to stop wearing lipstick!

You could stop wearing collars.