[Farmgirl22]

All the media coverage about Michael Jackson.

You'd think he was a saint or something, instead of a super creepy, butt of lots of jokes, don't-let-him-anywhere-near-your-young-children guy that he was. I get the whole "respect for the dead", but seriously? He's suddenly fabulous just because he's dead?

What a waste of news. I'm truly embarrassed to be an American today if that's what we consider to be important news.

[buffoon]

Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

All the media coverage about Michael Jackson.

You'd think he was a saint or something, instead of a super creepy, butt of lots of jokes, don't-let-him-anywhere-near-your-young-children guy that he was. I get the whole "respect for the dead", but seriously? He's suddenly fabulous just because he's dead?

What a waste of news. We have a huge tax increase in the form of a "global warming prevention" plan going through the House right now, and all we hear about is MJ? It's no wonder that other countries citizen's think that Americans are stupid...I'll no longer be offended, so much as embarrassed about the country I belong to.

Sit back Becca, breathe deeply and relax.
Stupidity knows no border. Via Satellite I get English (UK and US-news), French, German, Italian, Arabic, Turkish and God knows what else. Via aerial Spanish.
You think I can turn any freaking channel on without getting all this hype ?
I dunno, but I think there are at least three thread on TSG right now.
I'll admit to having played one of them. It was too good an opportunity
to blast him.

[lighthouse]

This particular Jan Masaryck has had to contend with all sorts of crap since the early 1990s. He wasn’t propped up by any of the stuff that always seems to for those others. What intrigues me about all of this is how the hate Campaign starts almost as soon as the Appropriation has been done. What’s also odd is how no-one shows up in 2000 when they apparently wanted this Guy to work in it. Why the chronic lack of Initiative? The fact is that it has become so contrived that no-one knows how these days or there’s no genuine Sponteneity, and what you’ll end up with is an Industry full of – or propped up by - Dudheads and not much more – a Chavvish nightmare that begins at some point in the 90s,

Why does all this stuff start after my time at the BBC at the beginning of that wretched Decade? What I can say here without much fear of Contradiction is that there isn’t very much left (if anything).

I don’t like what it does to Peoples lives either – and how an Idea becomes more important than the People in it. A Babylonian King, Roman Emperor or Pope can disperse and oppress an entire Nation – but then so can a Creative Economy or Politician. What People might be surprised to read here though is how I say this as much for the sake of some who wronged me in that awful Environment as I do me. When the Careerism and Manipulation isn’t all some of them can be quite nice People while others can be just as awful away from it all as they are in it. One thing I do realize is that it’s the only Industry than can enforce some of the most peculiar Dictats imaginable on People as the Production grinds on, but there does come a time when you aren’t working in it anymore and Peoples Memories being what they are Transgressions aren’t easily forgotten. I see someone from when I worked in it and although a Decision was made that favoured them against me many Years ago the Politics of it all weren’t important – but this still seems to continue into our Post-BBC Lives. Not very much has changed since the dark days of the Hollywood Studio System where a Director or Producer could keep an aspiring Actor/Actress in servitude for most of their lives and it could be argued that other Areas of the Economy now do something similar. It’s as if the entire Process and indeed the lives of those involved (including mine) is in need of an almost 1977 style Entebbe Raid if what happened the other day is any measure of anything. .

[lighthouse]

One thing's for sure - I'm not gonna spend the rest of my life getting thumped because everything we are, everything we do, and everything we contribute for nearly 4 and half Decades continually disappears into an inaccessible Yuppie Hippie Elite or the sort of People who have a lump of Concrete between their Ears - and a few who seem to have the Communication Skills of a Brick! Because of one botch up after another (after all - what exactly did used to go on when I was working as a Fundraiser for Human Rights that time?) or even how since I don't know when I met People who just couldn't get it together - or do everything in Dribs and drabs - then go into some sort of denial about everything!

Oh, and who stole my David Kossof Book?

Playing Music in the Street? Well - when their dismal fascist High Streets are just infested with the sort of People who did this the other day - and not much else, then perhaps they'll realise that there might be something wrong - but not until probably!

When the so called 'Creative Economy' is entirely Peopled by Knucledraggers without an Idea to rub together then maybe they'll see that there might be a Problem!

[lighthouse]

It's got nothing to do with the War either! We had 2 RAF Stations and a very large USAF Base within a 35 Mile radius of where we lived during 2 concurrent Conflicts (4 if you include the 6 Day War and Yom Kippur as secondary involvement Events). This was the Cod War (around the time of the Prague Spring) and when the Vietnam War was at its Zenith (Tet etc), but it wasn't like any of this, while Cambridge was full of rather alternative People doing much the same as I have. So for or against - Straight and Alternative - lived quite peacefully and uninterfered with by either, while our local Gypsy Families were as much the Community as the proverbial Butcher, Baker and Candlestick Maker and from what I can remember Anti-Semitism didn't exist!

The entire thing has Creative Economics Politics and Conrivance, Prestige Issues, Money and a heap of other things that have meant everything is upside down, inside out and back to front written all over it and I'd like to see some deny it.

[lighthouse]

Tacky Tracksuit Culture. By this I mean those dodgy Bands from the 1990s. I ll take whatever those trendy Radio Stations or the NME have to say about all this seriously when those Groups are still dong the big Festivals like Neil Young has just played Glasto 40 Years after debuting with C.S and N at Woodstock in 1969. I feel so peeved about this because I remember how if you looked like someone who might have anything resembling a Jefferson Airplane Album in your Collection in the early 90s it was off to the metaphorical Knackers Yard. Instead of actually being oneself we had to become someone else to be ourselves – or else, and I got so riled about it I wanted to get pitched outside the Beeb in Bristol and do the entire Repertoire of Stuff I know and ask the Hippies in Suits (who’d probably be listening to Bing Crosby rather than David were it not for certain things established a long time ago) what all the Hippiephobia was about all at that time.

Anything you can think of in the creative economy and we gave it to them – what they gave back was the Bluetones Shed 7 and (out)Cast.

Psuedo Culture most of it.

Not surprised I never made it with anyone anyhow – with such a dismal contrived and subsequently transient Soundtrack and rather bleak and brutal Aesthetic. Here today gone tomorrow Politicians or equally temporary Rock, Pop or Club Music – what’s the difference?

Oh – and I thought I’d better reword something I wrote in a previous Post. We don’t want to confuse the expression ‘Dudhead’ for any reference to a certain Musical Instrument do we! “Dudhead” refers to the sort of Culture or Attitude that led to what happened the other day - while the Duduk is an awesome Instrument played predominantly in the Caucasus and particularly in Armenia. Maybe I’ll just use the word ‘stupid’ instead.

[lighthouse]

Whether it's the Facilities/Contacts to produce everything from the 10 Second Radio Commercial to the 3 Hour Feature Film or 26 Part TV Series we gave it to them. Then there are all the other things associated with this - Music, Artwork, Special Effects - all of it, and rather more substantial than the sum total of either a Song, Band or even entire Subculture. If it gets to the Point where it's 'no fun anymore' (thanks CSN and Y) - and black Eyes are where (any other Colour) ought to be - then why do it?

What made Byzantia so civilised is how all the things that happened there don't seem to happen here, and once Rome began flexing its Muscles that became rather difficult. If we are going to have an Industry or even World which might make it to the 22nd Century then maybe a few lessons could be learned from that time in the very early AD Period.

[lighthouse]

The Fact that Hostages are bang abducted and murdered (2 more Today) and no-one does anything about it. Bt then maybe they can’t. Our Project could – because of a Timeline that began in 1936 – and continues into the very recent with a rather famous NYC based TV Programme – that was its momentum. The Link? Don McClean, WEA – our Project and a descendant of Owen! In this Context what the hell was going wrong in this part of the World while Ms Anniston, Cox etc were making one of the most successful TV Programmes of recent Years? The Metaphorical Gulag might be one of them – the almost endless succession of Deceptions another. All of this says something about the Positivity of what we were doing so rather than waging War on New York (re; the 9/11 ‘Coincidence) we probably helped its Contribution and Presence into the 21st Century via something shown in almost any Country in the World with a TV Set.

This isn’t the ‘Middle of a Crowd’ and I’m not particularly interested in any one Song Lyric when something like this happens, while what was being done about a previous Injustice similar to this had a vitality derived from something rather more significant than a 1977 Punk Rock Album. I neither want a War on myself and maybe someone could ask Thom Yorke what he means by ‘it’ in a Song on his 2nd Album! Perhaps those aggrieved by the recent Tragedy would like to ask him!

The fact that while this was going on (and while being maneuvered into what happened on 9/11) I’m being subjected to all sorts of stuff not very conducive to any of it – and doesn’t feel particularly friendly at all. I can only commiserate with those who must be devastated about what has just happened in Iraq and feel abject despair at what Creative Economics Politics has stooped to in recent Years.

Having a suspected broken Cheekbone – probably for speaking out about Stuff relevant to this.

Oh, and what is the Film “The Cruel Deep” about exactly – apart from the obvious Plotline?

[lighthouse]

Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

All the media coverage about Michael Jackson.

You'd think he was a saint or something, instead of a super creepy, butt of lots of jokes, don't-let-him-anywhere-near-your-young-children guy that he was. I get the whole "respect for the dead", but seriously? He's suddenly fabulous just because he's dead?

What a waste of news. I'm truly embarrassed to be an American today if that's what we consider to be important news.

Ahhh - well, if any Consolation can be derived at all from the 90s and our Music (UK) was how Jarvis Cocker made his Statement at the Brits that time! I reckon this made him about the only decent thing that UK Music probably ever did in an otherwise rather bleak 10 years. I never really liked Micheal Jacksons Music - or even the Stuff he was doing before that - and I often ask what black America made of his surgical Alterations.

[lighthouse]

The time had arrived Years ago – probably n the early 90s – when although we might still have some of or Youthful Idealism the streaming of our lives was beginning. Even within our Project there was an Inner Sanctum developing which wasn’t a room or building – rather a group of People who would all socialize and make those decisions for the rest of the Decade while I’m the Guy writing the Press and PR Pack, wearing the T-shirts and making the appropriate Radio Programmes. But somewhere in all of this the Story was going to involve me being on the Street for Years while they continued their future Career Development. Now, they have the 40 Something Yuppie Hippie Lives and I have a fractured Cheekbone. The Paradox is that none of them have the name Owen in their Ancestry whereas I do – and despite (or maybe even because of) the 3 Years at the BBC, 2 at the local Uni, and doing Music Promotion + Human Rights Fundraising a few Years ago no-one relevant makes the Connection and I get punched in the Face for my and our Efforts.

If David Gurion and his People can begin their Lives again after being decimated during the Holocaust then so can I. If their new Lives were the Response to the systematic Hate that seemed to have prevailed here then that’s what I must do.

The Events of last Week prove that there really isn’t anything left in the UK for any 40 something’s who didn’t get established in our 20s and 30s regardless of what anyone might try and say to the contrary!

Had enough of feeling isolated and vulnerable all the time!

[gm3]

would you please start your own thread titled lighthouse ramblings and keep your rambling drivel in it...

thanks.

[paisanol69]

Originally Posted by gm3

would you please start your own thread titled lighthouse ramblings and keep your rambling drivel in it...

thanks.

a person would consider what you just posted as drivel also...why don't you realx, and try to keep a civil tongue while your at it

This forum/website is for everyone, not just a few!!!!

BTW, as a relative newcomer to this Site, show some respect for those that have been here longer, even if you cant follow their posts ( I suffer from the same)

[hannab]

Originally Posted by gm3

would you please start your own thread titled lighthouse ramblings and keep your rambling drivel in it...

thanks.

that actually is a good idea

Originally Posted by paisanol69

a person would consider what you just posted as drivel also...why don't you realx, and try to keep a civil tongue while your at it

This forum/website is for everyone, not just a few!!!!

BTW, as a relative newcomer to this Site, show some respect for those that have been here longer, even if you cant follow their posts ( I suffer from the same)

Lighthouse has been hogging a few threads again, recently, the only reason I stopped in on this one is because someone else had fianlly posted

[gm3]

Originally Posted by paisanol69

a person would consider what you just posted as drivel also...why don't you realx, and try to keep a civil tongue while your at it

This forum/website is for everyone, not just a few!!!!

BTW, as a relative newcomer to this Site, show some respect for those that have been here longer, even if you cant follow their posts ( I suffer from the same)

I hope you enjoyed spanking as much as I enjoyed recieving it. Spankings always put a smile on my face.

thank you...

show some respect for those that have been here longer

Why ? respect is earned, not something you get from post count or longevity.

[Davec]

Originally Posted by hannab

fianlly

Is that a British spelling?