[RSM123]

Originally Posted by valis

we'll see about that; note Ferrari still hasn't released any team orders, and massa has out qualified kimi last two races......something to consider.

Could they not do that by codewords ? By that I mean brief both drivers prior to the race that should they hear a prearranged phrase ' problem with telemetry data', ' set revs to 90 %', or anything else ... that the driver they wanted to rein in, would suddenly announce the need for a pit stop - or slow down.

That would rule out any chance of detection of a radio message telling a driver to 'ease off'.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist ... merely outlining one clear way in which a forbidden 'team order' could be relayed.

[valis]

Originally Posted by RSM123

Could they not do that by codewords ? By that I mean brief both drivers prior to the race that should they hear a prearranged phrase ' problem with telemetry data', ' set revs to 90 %', or anything else ... that the driver they wanted to rein in, would suddenly announce the need for a pit stop - or slow down.

That would rule out any chance of detection of a radio message telling a driver to 'ease off'.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist ... merely outlining one clear way in which a forbidden 'team order' could be relayed.

theoretically, of course they could. But generally there is a lead driver and a secondary driver. The lead driver is frequently id'd by the color of the tower on the roll cage. Ferrari is famous for having a lead driver and a secondary driver; probably more so than any other team. The fact that they haven't really stated anything yet speaks volumes in and of itself.

Again, this is shaping up to be a fun season.

[pyritechips]

One driver of the team will have a red camera on the car so the spectators can tell the cars apart since the numbers are nearly invisible at camera distances. For example, Alonso has a red camera and Hamilton's is black.

McLaren works this way: Whoever qualifies fastest gets the choice of strategy, such as how much fuel to carry and subsequently what lap to pit on.

Ferrari worked this way: get the Hell out of Schumacher's way!

[valis]

and niki lauda, jodi schecter, michele alborertto, the list goes on.....

and if you believe that the 'ban' on team orders is obeyed, I got some land of the coast of Kansas to sell ya.

[pyritechips]

I got some land of the coast of Kansas to sell ya.

Wow! Kansas seaside property! Sell it to Ralf Schumacher since he thinks Toyota can run with the big dogs.

[valis]

actually, I was thinking JPM for quite possible the most 'interesting' move in motor sports history, and then, to top it off, calling it 'kindergarten' compared to F1.....sure way to win over the southern boys, JP....

[pyritechips]

So, let me get this straight. JPM moves from the pinnacle of motorsport to where he is now and he feels the right to judge? If he was any good he would be Alonso's team mate. I have no respect for him. Every time he dropped out of a race or finished poorly he always blamed the car or the track or some other driver, never himself. He was a poor loser and too immature to admit to a mistake. I'm glad he is gone; F1 is better off without him.

[valis]

He did the same thing in F1. Matter of fact, he crew chief at McLaren said that his sponsor in Nascar should be Mcdonalds, as he was routinely unable to make weight, and as such, the engineers would have to make changes in the balance of the car.....

[johnnyburst79]

F* JPM. Yes, he had fire and could drive but he was over the top in showing it. Like here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KFnnwdlerJM

[valis]

schweeeeeet.

link

Spyker’s Christijan Albers took on the might of the Royal Netherlands Air Force (RNLAF) on Friday. The Dutch driver raced a F16 fighter jet, piloted by RNLAF pilot Captain Ralph Aarts, in a straight-line speed contest at Volkel air base, in the south of Holland.
Intially it looked as though Albers had the advantage as he accelerated quickly away from the start line in the Dutch team’s F8-VII, leading the F16 over the early stages. But over the final 700m of the 1 kilometre run, the plane pulled ahead to win the race by just two car lengths.

“It was a tight race, for the first 300m all I could see was the plane in my mirrors, but then he just accelerated past me and off into the distance - it was incredible!” explained Albers. “I'd never been close to an F16, or even sat in one, so it was really interesting to compare the performance of the two. Aside from the displays though, Ralph and his team do some brave work out there, I have a lot of respect for them.”

[ImSmarterThanYou]

vroom vroom!

[pyritechips]

A Ferrari would have cleaned house on that F-16!

[ChrisJones]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

A Ferrari would have cleaned house on that F-16!

In 2004 or maybe 2005 a Ferrari with Shuey Snr. at the wheel had just such a race with an Italian Air Force eurofighter the plane wiped the floor with the ferrari!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/153929...vs_f1_ferrari/

[RSM123]

Originally Posted by ChrisJones

In 2004 or maybe 2005 a Ferrari with Shuey Snr. at the wheel had just such a race with an Italian Air Force eurofighter the plane wiped the floor with the ferrari!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/153929...vs_f1_ferrari/

Here is the vid of the so called Y2K Bike, featured in the movie Torque.

Powered by a jet turbine engine ... the startup sound is memorable.

Seen here likewise, racing a jet.

[valis]

Originally Posted by Ayrton Senna da Silva

"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high."

13 years ago, man......hard to believe that time went by so fast. Miss him terribly, and still state that he was the best to ever strap on a car. One of my idols, and one a person can learn a lot from.

Here's to you.