[katonca]

nah, I think it was Bon Jovi in - U571

Hi v

[valis]

heyya k....how's life treating you?

HOT down here, but that's sort of to be expected. My bloods too damn thick for this place.....was raised in colorado, not used to this 94 degrees and 85% humidity.

Oh yeah, did I mention the hurricanes?

[katonca]

Originally Posted by valis

heyya k....how's life treating you?

HOT down here, but that's sort of to be expected. My bloods too damn thick for this place.....was raised in colorado, not used to this 94 degrees and 85% humidity.

Oh yeah, did I mention the hurricanes?

Life is good

You should move to Ohio...we have it all 'cept hurricanes

[poochee]

Originally Posted by valis

My wife and I knew that one of us would not be working when our child was an infant, and when we have another, we're going to do the same thing. The formative years should be spent with someone who has a vested interest in the childs future; obviously the people best equipped for that are the people who decided to bring this person into the world.

I've said this for years, and I've also read it in a few sociology books, one of the major issues facing Ameirican society today and for the next generation at least, is the fact that we have given up the 'nuclear family' idealhood in favor of materialistic gains, which is a damn shame.

As opposed to having mom or dad around to help them mature.

I agree with you!

[valis]

Originally Posted by katonca

Life is good

You should move to Ohio...we have it all 'cept hurricanes

been through ohio more times than I can count.....good people up there. Little east for my taste.....think I'll end up back in either Colorado or Oregon, loved both of those places.....

[jonasdatum]

Originally Posted by valis

that's one of the saddest things I've ever heard.



And that's one of the stupidest. I don't believe it's your right to decide what any body else can or cannot do; it's entirely up to them. My wife and I knew that one of us would not be working when our child was an infant, and when we have another, we're going to do the same thing. The formative years should be spent with someone who has a vested interest in the childs future; obviously the people best equipped for that are the people who decided to bring this person into the world.

I've said this for years, and I've also read it in a few sociology books, one of the major issues facing Ameirican society today and for the next generation at least, is the fact that we have given up the 'nuclear family' idealhood in favor of materialistic gains, which is a damn shame, IMO. You don't need a $60k truck that gets 12 mpg if you live in a city. The only reason people get them is for status symbols, or to keep up with the Jones'. Now that they have that ring around their neck, they are forced into having a dual income household, and the ones who suffer from this materialstic feeding frenzy are the children under, say, 2 years of age who are dumped at day care for up to 12 hours daily.

As opposed to having mom or dad around to help them mature.

With that attitude, something tells me you are going to wake up at 60 wondering why you are alone.

First off, I am not deciding the choice for anybody! If I had that power, then I'd be rich!

I already know why I am alone:

1) I am poor: Granted this isn't much of a reason, but if I was big roller I wouldn't have to worry so much about food, shelter, education, etc.

2) Not like everybody else: I still relatively young, but not getting any younger. I learned a long time ago, my courtship skills need work. However, I have other priorities such as the aformentioned. Yes, having a wife or girlfriend could contribute to obtaining those. I don't match most women of my age in terms of intrest or idealology. Most women I know may consider me a friend, ally, but not their boyfriend. Those who might have kids and thus shoudln't spend so much time on men. Many call me mature, some call me wierd, and most call me kind. P.S. I have no criminal record, unless that IDtheif did something .

3) No Car: Can't afford one. That is I cannot afford to maintain it.

4) Can't dance.

I could have had relationships with 2 or 3 women, but I admit I screwed those up before they even evolved into anything beyond classmates. Hmm, well too late now; also, most women I've even had a remote chance to be involved with are older and more educated than me.

5) Don't go out much: I don't go out much because I need to develope my social network more.

6) There is another detail, but I can't go into it because of the PG-13 restrictions on the form so moving on.

GETTING BACK ON TOPIC, I have nothing against the idea. I am simply saying that I don't have that level of faith. Also, I took two sociology classes and two economics classes. Thus I agree with the bulk of you materialism statement. As you may have already read on my other threads if I want something I try to find the cheapest way to get it! That being said I am no fool; money is good! Money can do alot in this world.

Money provides medical care, food, shelter, and education. The better you have of all of these the better your life normally is. Technically I am working class, but it wouldn't take much for me to become the working poor.

Not to go off on a tangent, but is why I am considering the military (refer to my military thread). Those who serve in the military and live often have better lives, at least those I've know and encountered.

Strength = money = better life!

[izme]

hey...there's something regal and valiant about flippin burgers at mickyD's

that perpetual menial job which grinds at your very existance but is fine and dandy because you have cable and a half rack in the fridge.

[katonca]

Originally Posted by valis

been through ohio more times than I can count.....good people up there. Little east for my taste.....think I'll end up back in either Colorado or Oregon, loved both of those places.....

Colorado is a beautiful state...been there twice. Never interacted with the people though, probably my loss

[katonca]

Originally Posted by izme

hey...there's something regal and valiant about flippin burgers at mickyD's

that perpetual meanial job which grinds at your very existance but is fine and dandy because you have cable and a half rack in the fridge.

Is that rack....short ribs???????

Hi Fish

[izme]

Originally Posted by katonca

Is that rack short ribs???????

Hi Fish

Racks are on women and in beer...on deer and freakin antelope...my aim varies on the hunted

hiya Katonca

[katonca]

Originally Posted by izme

Racks are on women and in beer...on deer and freakin antelope...my aim varies on the hunted

hiya Katonca

{{{HOLY COW}}} you have everything covered

[izme]

Originally Posted by katonca

{{{HOLY COW}}} you have everything covered

holy cow? hmmmmm


I've never seen one...must be in India? Is there a holy rat riding piggy back or? lmao

[valis]

Originally Posted by jonasdatum

I don't believe in a woman not having a job.

Originally Posted by jonasdatum

First off, I am not deciding the choice for anybody!

make up your mind! you deciding that a woman needs to work, then you are making her choice for her. Big mistake. In any interpersonal relationship, communication is the key. You can no more decide that a woman should work than I can decide that I can levitate. It simply doesn't work that way. There needs to be open lines of communication BOTH WAYS for any relationship to work.

And I don't mean 'I did this.' I mean 'What do you think of this?'

Money is an offshoot of how hard you work and what your goals are. If you set your goals relatively low and easy to reach, you can end up working very hard for very little indeed. If you set your goals higher, almost out of reach, you will work just as hard, but with higher incremental successes.

The military thing is a great idea, IMO. I wasn't in, but that is probably the only thing in my life I would change were I to live it over again.

[katonca]

Originally Posted by izme

holy cow? hmmmmm


I've never seen one...must be in India? Is there a holy rat riding piggy back or? lmao

Only during a full moon

[izme]

Originally Posted by katonca

Only during a full moon

that's when women sprout long claws and huge freakin tudes...might walk away with yer life if yer lucky....werebad women are dangerous...you had better run for the apple orchard or succumb to her frivilous ways