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19-Feb-2011, 09:12 AM #1426
Meanwhile, Arthur and his Knights had been made to chase Germanus's Paper Trail for so long there are only 7 of them left.

Even Rick Witter had had enough by the mid-90s!

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And while Will Scarlett gives Voice to the indignation of yet another Caviat he quite rightly says that he's only saying what they were all thinking. The usually good natured Galahad had finally reached the end of his Tether.

You'll remember how - in "Return of the King" - Peregrine Took lights a Fire at Minas Tireth that summons the Rohirim, Aragorn and others, except it's as if they've been lured onto the Beach like Blakes Ship. John Lennon lights a Fire in "Norwegian Wood" and what are the Beatles if they aren't the typical Band of the 1960s - and THE Hippie Rock and Roll Group of all time? So while the Beatles are so omnipresent in Culture they have become Saffron Wallpaper Lord of the Rings is the ultimate Hippie Fantasy. The Problem is that all these things are are the Rainbows Arturius and his Knights have to chase all the time - fighting off everything to defend what both Gwenhwrfar and Alecto tell Arthur doesn't exist. They'd lost many Friends in the 15 Years they'd done this and by the time Germanus shows up - who Arthur hasn't seen since he was a Child probably - they were ragged. Even Gawain says he'd lived that Life so long the previous one wasn't so clear in his Mind.

As for the Wall - all of them would still be in Sarmatia if it wasn't there!

I've seen Friends get wounded - sometimes mortally - because of all that Gak - as tortured and hurt as Gwenhwrfar - or just suffered a Cruelty the Propaganda always neglects to mention. Some of them were quite lovely too - and I can get rather like those Knights in the Bruckheimer Film.............while remembering those who really did try to 'make the World better' like Balian does in the Ridley-Scott Film.

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19-Feb-2011, 01:45 PM #1427
While I was a 'Ranger' - doing what I could to keep the metaphorical Shire and Breeland safe for the Elves/Hippies (whatever you want to call them) from the Black Riders or even Black Knights I didn't realise that they would gradually become the Nimbies they became. Peregrine Took proves his Treachery in the Prancing Pony like he was in the Trip to Jerusalem - shooting his Mouth off to all and sundry to Frodos Chagrin. What is also intriguing in light of our "Inheritance" Episode is how Mortimer - who was Robert/Robin Hodes Friend in the time of the Earl of Lancasters Rebellion against Edward llnd became the Sheriff and his Nemisis. (Mortimers Hole in Nottingham Castle isn't called that for nothing).

As for the Beatles - well, they seem to have the same Effect on Culture and our Rock and Roll Lives as the One Ring.........and is just as deceptive. The amount of People who've been mauled because of their Effects as none of whatever any of it represents ever lived up to its Propaganda. There was no 'Love and Peace' here in the Rock and Roll Hippie World I can tell you......quite the opposite - and as far as I'm concerned too many People have been hurt because of it.
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20-Feb-2011, 04:05 PM #1428
Love and Peace (if such a thing exists here), from someone called Robert - with a Father called David - who spent his first 9 Years in Huntingdonshire.
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21-Feb-2011, 12:47 AM #1429
Tristan shoots a Traitor in a Tree..........

If it wasn't for that Wall those Sarmations killed in the 15 Years since they arrived - including Tristan, Dagonet and Lancelot - would still be in Sarmatia - raising Families and living their Lives. King Arthur was made in 2004 - 15 Years after 1989.

They were still only Children when the Romans consripted them into the Army as Auxileries.

Blake says to his Crew "I should have seen what was there not some Holy Light!"

As Will Scarlett always used to ask "What's going on?"
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21-Feb-2011, 04:22 AM #1430
From someone called Robert - with a Father called David - who spent his first 9 Years in Huntingdonshire.

Oh, and if it wasn't for that Wall not only wouldn't those Sarmations and Arthurs Father be dead, Briton wouldn't have been divided either!

Kenneth (Cunneda) Branagh executes a Traitor from Cambridge! Roger de Carnac does his worst, Roger de Cornier enjoys the Patronage!

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21-Feb-2011, 08:42 AM #1431
Shame all of this has been horribly let down by whatever Shenanigans is going on around here - and has been - for Decades though isn't it! What if the Worlds most famous Outlaw turns out to be more intrinsic than any so called 'Patriot' - draped in their Red White and Blues - you'll find? What if all they've done is manipulate and manouvre in all that time to their own - usually creative and careerist - ends?

Blake lies naked on the Floor ........... and what are you going to do about it Louise?

Arthur and his Knights are ragged at the Years of having to chase those Rainbows - Bors is fed up at having to give yet more Blood - Robin dies at Kirklees Priory - Wallace is let down at Falkirk!

Will Scarlett rails at the Nimbie Villagers - Robin tells them Nothing is forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten.

And while the real life David Earl of Huntingdon did have a Son called Robert - who dies in Infancy apparently, watch "Highlander" again and see how Russell Nash maintains his Identity for Centuries. Then watch the "Inheritance" and how Raven - Mortimers Accomplice in the attempted appropriation of Cearleon - says to Robert "but your Dead!" - and Robert replies - "Am I?".

Meanwhile, someone is pretending to be King Richard in an attempt to catch any Dissidents while another is posing as a wronged Woman and Mother called 'Rose'!

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21-Feb-2011, 09:41 AM #1432
And on these Nimbie Villagers..........

In an Episode called "Walkabout" the Sheriff has sleepwalked into the Forest and it is rumoured that he has been killed. To avoid Repurcussions from Prince John - who will Raze Nottingham within 24 Hours of this happening - Guy has to prove that he hasn't been or else. Marian suggests he ask Robin for his help in finding Vaisey and asks him on Gisbournes behalf. Robin is having none of this and says how he wants to hear that from Guy himself. The Radio Ga Ga has continually played Records about something - but it isn't coming from those it's supposed to be coming from. If it doesn't then the Beeb were right to remake the Show 21 Years after we did because it suggests that there has been no improvement here at all in any of the intervening Years.
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21-Feb-2011, 12:37 PM #1433
And Tristan shoots the Traitor in a Tree - while Wallace is let down by his so called Friends who have traded his People for yet more Land and Property.
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21-Feb-2011, 04:12 PM #1434
It seems that Robin and his Retinue were having Problems with Nimby Villagers as long ago as 1984-5.

On the Subject of the Inheritance, this deals with something far more ancient than even Crusade Era England. Here we have a Combination of the Huntingdon Earls Time (late 12th Century) and the Earl of Lancasters - (the 14th). Mortimer was a Marcher Lord on the Side of Lancasters Rebellion in what would be the Despenser War against Edward the llnd. Unfortunately for the earlier Epoch of Huntingdons Dissidents and their Allies in Wales and Scotland it was Mortimers Uncle who took the Head of Llewellyn the last to London after the Battle of Orewyn Bridge near Builth and Edward lst defeat of an Independent Wales. (He then occupied the Gwynedd Ancestral Home and had almost all of Llewellyns Children and Family incarcerated - 2 of whom were Daffyds Sons kept in Bristol). So all was not as hunky dory with the Lancaster Rebels Allies as many might think.

Llewellyn the last - or Ap Gryffudd - was the last King of all Wales and Gwynedds last stand against the English and the Brutality of Edward the Longshanks particularly. To establish this Point when Arthur appears to Agrivaine he says how there had been an Agrivaine in Caerleon for 700 Years - which from the Time of King Richard (being the late 12th Century) establishes it at around the late 400s AD - the Time when the Gwynedd Aristocracy was in its Ascendancy and the Gododdin. Even the BBCs Show has Archer in a Relationship with the lovely Gwynedd in the Episode called "The Enemy of my Enemy"!

And if People think Taxes might have been punitative in the Time of Prince or King John imagine how much worse they'd have been with Edward 1st. Not only to finance his part in the 4th Crusade but also his Wars in France and to subjogate the Welsh and the Scots. Mortimer profitted hugely after the defeat of the Welsh by obtaining Lands and Titles across Wales - so although he might have been one of the Lancaster Earls Allies, as an historical Figure he doesn't bode too well with the Robin Hood Legend. It also puts him at odds with the De Bryces in Scotland so we're not exactly big Fans of his I'm afraid.

On the Subject of Pretence anyone remember Vaiseys nauseating Speech about St Luke during the Service on St Barnabas's Day?

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21-Feb-2011, 11:46 PM #1435
You can infer from this that the Earl of Huntingdon being also Prince David of Scotland means any Scots - or even Celt - Mercenaries fighting for either Prince/King John or his Lackeys is very unlikely indeed, so Kevin Costners Film where this happens is a hefty Chunk of Creative License.

So as far as we're concerned Mortimer was as bad as any of the Despensers during that War because he might have been opposed to Edward llnd and some of his very King John Policies but wasn't too bothered about acquiring vast Areas of Wales after it had been subjogated by Edward Longshanks. Somewhat inconsistant really. But while he covetted the Lands of Wales the Earl of Lancaster didn't so we quite like what he was trying to achieve.

Oh, and aren't the Nimby Villagers a bit like the Saracen in Ridley-Scots Film?

And not only is De Carnac pretending to be Robin Hood in an attempt to discredit him, someone pretends to be King Richard to trap the Dissidents, the Sheriffs Sister pretends to be a wronged Woman called 'Rose' to trap Robin, there's even a Dummy pretending to be King Richards Corpse.

(Sigh) Is there anyone around here who is actually genuine - and those Villagers are still being Nimbys.

Oh, and does anyone remember the Scene when Chauncey (Ruthless Rufus) goes to Work on Loxley? Sure enough - Robin and his Men come to the Rescue - again! But what happens if he can't? And while everyone thought Gisbourne was a tyranical Tax Collector what do they make of Rufus? The difference between those of King Johns Era and those of Longshanks probably - and he cost us more than just Taxes!

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22-Feb-2011, 04:01 AM #1436
It wasn't just "Ouch!" that peeved me about that Street but also how almost everything I met was complete Bulcrud. What happens if Robin meets too many People like that - or suffers too many Nimbys and it all goes wrong? Our Will Scarlett - one of Arthurs Knights - might be somewhat disappointed to know that it's much the same now as it was when he used to rail against it 25 Years ago. A Potter suffers Chaunceys Excess - Robin comes to the Rescue - but is still treated like an Outcast - even by Kate until that time.

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22-Feb-2011, 04:26 AM #1437
Tristan shoots the Traitor in a Tree because there was a Time when Robert - Son of David - from Huntingdonshire - wasn''t just meeting Nimbys all the Time, kept on the Street, on a Bench, in 'A Forest'.............wasn't there! So what's changed - and why was that happening - and why does it lead to "Ouch!"?

Wasn't always like that was it!

And even after Robin has dealt with Chauncey it's not all back to Loxley Manor for a Tankard of Mead and Congratulations on another successful day defending the Villagers against the Sheriff is it! While Will rails against yet another Caviat to their Freedom in King Arthur even Gisbourne gets peeved at Archer when it looks like he begins to attach one to his helping Robin and Friends "We just risked our Lives for you!" he quite indignantly points out - upon which Archer steals his Horse!

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22-Feb-2011, 10:54 AM #1438
................And on the Subject of Taxes it looks like People have had enough of paying their Highbeam Research Tax! Websites full of Robin Hoods preparing to sue them into Gaol! Not before time either - they're reminiscent of what used to happen in Chicago!

Rather like the Robin Hood TV Show - this Area is rather like Nottingham after Vaisey took over! There are things happening here that never used to!

Dummies in Department Stores - Dummies pretending to be King Richard!

"When the Deaths are caused by the Taxes something is rotten!"

Oh, and have you ever seen the Episode called "Angel of Death" by the way? Come to think of it..................have the Beeb ever watched their own TV Series?

Probably not!

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22-Feb-2011, 07:47 PM #1439
All of which is why our TV Series is regarded as the definitive Narrative on the Robin Hood Legend. It isn't just an Hour a Week of the usual Derring Do of a Bunch of Swashbucklers robbing the rich, battling the Sheriff and rescuing the occasional Damsel. It attempts to explain some of the Intricacies of the Legend and why Robin has endured where many others have dwindled into the vastness of History. His Associations with the ancient Welsh, the Link with Medieval Scotland and subsequent Insurrections against the usually brutal Monarchs of the Time. The Mysticism of then is also explored (Herne the Hunter) and many other Aspects of the Story not really found in something Errol Flynn or even Kevin Costner might be in. Not bad for an Indie based in 1980s Bristol huh - and rather appropriate for a TV Company started by and named after a Harlech!

As for Edmund Mortimer - hmmm - about as popular in Wales as Mungo Campbell might be in Scotland and definately a dubious Ally for the Earl of Lancaster.

Many People worked on it - some of this explains why!

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23-Feb-2011, 04:52 AM #1440
Bruckheimer studies Arthur of the Britons - someone asks where it all went wrong. Film Makers err away from any Lord of the Rings Fantasy and attempt to give you the Facts rather than the Fiction - although even Peter Jackson didn't realise how much of that is found in Tolkien anyway!

Edmund Mortimer is given more Lands in Wales by Longshanks (his War Patronage) - Prima Nochta is allowed in 90s BS20. People become about as real as their Hair Colour - or even a wronged Woman called 'Rose'!

Belicose 'Patriots' wrap themsleves in the Union Jack - Robert, Son of David, remembers his Time in Huntingdonshire! King John increases Taxes to wage War on Llewelyn ap Iorwerth...........Longshanks would do the same to finance Mortimers Armies 100 Years later. King David establishes Jerusalem - Prince David establishes Edinburgh - Russell Nash does battle with a Giant - the outnumbered Goddodin charge at the Bernicians!

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