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25-Feb-2004, 10:27 AM #1
DVD Backup Copying- Judgement against
For those of you that have gone into the world of creating backup copies of DVD movies from your own private collections you will no longer be able to purchase software that is capable of this in the very near future. DVD X-COPY (321 studio's inc.) has lost the first of its 6 lawsuits brought against them by the Movie studios regarding their software's ability to make DVD quality backups of DVD movies.

The judgement states that 321 studios is required to stop selling the full version of their software within the next 7 days. For those of you that are currently/interested in backing up movie collections, I would give strong consideration to purchasing the appropriate backup software in the next 7 days (before it is no longer available)

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Dear 321 Studios Customers & Friends,

As many of you may have already heard, Judge Illston of the Northern District of California Court ruled against us last Friday and in favor of the movie studios. This is the first major decision in the six lawsuits in which we are now involved.


Her ruling included an injunction preventing us from continuing to sell the current version of our popular DVDXCOPY software if it included a ripper. This injunction takes effect 7 days from her order. While we do not agree with the rationale behind the decision, we intend to fully comply with the order and, at the same time, file an appeal and ask her to stay the injunction pending the appeal.


This decision is unfortunate news for us. However, we expected the fight for fair use rights to be a long one when we initiated it almost two years ago. We also expected to face great opposition and to take some hits along the way. Well, we are still here and are not going out of business. Starting next week, we’ll sell ripper-free versions of DVDXCOPY as well as all our other popular titles including DVDXSHOW, DVDXMAKER and DVDXPOINT.


If you’d like to read Judge Illston’s decision or articles written about us, please go to our web site at http://www.321studios.com. If you’d like to offer your support, please visit http://www.protectfairuse.org. Meanwhile, we are making every effort to continue to support you and your 321 products.


Please share this news with your friends and family. We can use all the support we can get to continue fighting for everyone’s fair use rights in today’s digital world.


Thank you for your ongoing support,

Sincerely,

The 321 Studios Team.
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25-Feb-2004, 11:01 AM #2
Somehow, we have got to get to a point where, when you purchase digital content (movie, music or whatever), you purchase a license for personal use no mater what the format or media. This license should allow you to make as many copies as you wish in as many formats as you wish on as many different media as you wish for your own personal use.

I don't agree with stealing content, distributing content freely to others, allowing free access to content by others, or reselling content without permission. But I also do not agree with paying for the same content over and over again as the technology changes.

Perhaps, as a deterrent to illegal copying, we can come up with a scheme that would burn right into the content some encrypted information about the licensee at the time the license is purchased. Thus any copies made could be traced back to the licensee. (But I doubt such a suggestion would really be feasible.)
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25-Feb-2004, 04:59 PM #3
Oh sh*t. The thing I most disagree with this is that it is easy to scratch a DVD beyond usability, lose it....or have somebody steal it; there is no reason you should have to BUY a new one. What is this world coming to.

Oh well.......guess I have to go buy that software. G...would you recomend that software you listed? Is there anything else you need? I wasn't planning on buying a DVD writer for at least a few more months......but I should definately get the software now.
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25-Feb-2004, 05:00 PM #4
Oh and also...anybody know what exactly you need to rip DVDs on your computer? I looked into that long ago when I got my DVD-rom, but it seemed complicated and you seemed to need about 3 different programs.

Anyone..........anyone................
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25-Feb-2004, 05:03 PM #5
.................actually; about the DVD back-up copying, anybody know of good freeware software for making DVD copies?
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25-Feb-2004, 08:18 PM #6
I hadn't tried to copy my dvds yet... Didn't know I couldn't by just hooking my dvd player to my puter's burner... through mytv... or whaterver - hadn't got that far. But my son has trashed 3 cd's & I usually make back up copies as soon as I get them in.
They either need to make it so we can make a personal copy or make them cheaper...
You don't want the companies to get ripped off (well not too bad anyway ) but I can't afford $20 in the first place for one - I'm certainly not gonna pay that twice.

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Originally posted by deuce:
Oh sh*t. The thing I most disagree with this is that it is easy to scratch a DVD beyond usability, lose it....or have somebody steal it; there is no reason you should have to BUY a new one. What is this world coming to.

Oh well.......guess I have to go buy that software. G...would you recomend that software you listed? Is there anything else you need? I wasn't planning on buying a DVD writer for at least a few more months......but I should definately get the software now.
The 321 studio's software, DVD X-COPY- for full backup (uncompressed, with special features) and DVD XCOPY Express for compressed backups (just the movie and one disc) was by far and away the best out there in my opinion.

You can still purchase the software for another 7 days.
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26-Feb-2004, 02:27 AM #8
hmmm....well I'll just have to look into that 321 software then.


See the mistake with this (and of course it isn't at all 321's fault) is that you will be able to obtain it illegally until the end of time.........but now you can no longer get it the right way, even if you really want to. Oh man....so close to being ironic, it's funny.
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26-Feb-2004, 11:26 AM #9
The software is (or was) expensive back when I purchased it $100 for each version. I didn't know to much about DVD copying and didn't want to make the investment until I knew it worked, so I tried obtaining Cracks/hacks of the software and no-one could find them. I did find 321 studios does offer a trial version thats good for 2 backups of movies. Once I tried it, I was totally sold on their software. Some of the newer movie don't work though, I bought Pirates of the Caribbean a month ago, and I couldn't back it up with DVD X-COPY but DVD X-Copy EXPRESS worked fine (if you can live with compressed video and no special features.)

I made the purchases, and have to say it is very well worth it. I have a very large DVD collection (over 100DVD's) and after I saw my 400CD collection get mangled and scratched I think the DVD software has more than payed for itself.
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26-Feb-2004, 11:34 AM #10
Everthing you ever wanted to know about backing up DVDs can be found at http://www.dvdrhelp.com There are many free programs available to do the same thing.....the only thing about x copy was a one click solution.
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26-Feb-2004, 11:37 AM #11
There is lots of great info on that site.... the freebie software is difficult to learn and master though.

Im lazy, and I don't have 2 hours in a day to sit around a computer and control the ripping of the DVD. The 321 software is just one click.

BTW... Deuce, empty your PM box!
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26-Feb-2004, 11:52 AM #12
Looks much more complicated than it really is. only takes about 10 actual minutes at the computer. Does take some reading and experimenting but once you get it ......... its a breeze.
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26-Feb-2004, 02:16 PM #13
I think we got off topic a bit here on this. The point really is, if the 321 studios DVD backup software is banned by this ruling, then that judgement can be used to banned all versions of software that provides users with the ability to backup DVDs
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26-Feb-2004, 10:33 PM #14
Hey ! Went to their website! & guess what ? I already HAVE that! It came with my dvd burner. I didn't even realize that was what you were talking about because - Like I said I hadn't gotten that far yet. - $69.00 software free with purchase--- plus 2 other dvd & 2 blanks! From Lite-on through dell.
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^G......there's some room now.
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