[Super-D-38]

BD 9 Installed is 15.8 MB.. I left out the firewall, and something else...
Oh the anti spam software..

All I was after was the AV...

How it go's?.... As in, what?..
Had it one day, and it seems great.

[hewee]

Version 7 is just a AV.

Like how is BitDefender going after using it 30 days.
I like how the interface is simple on BitDefender.

Now if you go to the uninstall and click on BitDefender your get 3 options.
Install, repair and uninstall.
Not sure if the uninstall will let you uninstall will let you take off other things or not.

So did you do a custom install and just pick the AV?

[Maestro99]

Here's another independent test that gives a complete review and analysis.

2006 Anti-Virus Software Report

http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

Gold BitDefender
Silver PC-cillin
Bronze AVG Anti-Virus

#4 McAfee VirusScan
#5 F-Secure Anti-Virus
#6 Norton AntiVirus
#7 F-Prot for Windows
#8 eTrust EZ Antivirus
#9 ESET Nod32
#10 Panda Anti-Virus
#11 AVAST! Pro


I did some research and I found that some are complaining that the Free Edition is slow while scanning. Maybe that's the case with the Free Edition, but for me, the Standard Edition is not slow to a snail. PC World said second to last with a time of about 10 minutes. TopTenReview I believe said 1.5 gigabytes in ten minutes. The only problem I find is that they both don't say the # of files it scanned. For example, a full scan can mean different things to different antivirus applications. Therefore, in the future, both should conduct a customize scan (checking the C drive, and everything in and between it) and report their findings with the # of files scanned. I'll bet you, one antivirus will say 10,000 files, and the other 8,900 files.

All in all, AVG (free) is a great product. BitDefender is a great product. Norton is also a good product - perhaps not like the previous versions.....it all comes down to preference, and what you feel comfortable with.

[Super-D-38]

Originally Posted by hewee

Now if you go to the uninstall and click on BitDefender your get 3 options.
Install, repair and uninstall.
Not sure if the uninstall will let you uninstall will let you take off other things or not.

So did you do a custom install and just pick the AV?

It's "BitDefender 9 professional plus".
Custom install, and left out the Firewall, and the anti-spam add on's...

Yes under add/remove I have the option to "Modify, Repair, and Remove"
Full install will give AV, Firewall, Anti Spam, and Update...

I installed only the AV and the update stuff.. Says it's 22MB right now..

Originally Posted by Maestro99

I did some research and I found that some are complaining that the Free Edition is slow while scanning. Maybe that's the case with the Free Edition, but for me, the Standard Edition is not slow to a snail. PC World said second to last with a time of about 10 minutes. TopTenReview I believe said 1.5 gigabytes in ten minutes. The only problem I find is that they both don't say the # of files it scanned. For example, a full scan can mean different things to different antivirus applications. Therefore, in the future, both should conduct a customize scan (checking the C drive, and everything in and between it) and report their findings with the # of files scanned. I'll bet you, one antivirus will say 10,000 files, and the other 8,900 files.

I forgot how many files.. Well over 10,000.. I think it was like 40,000+....
Something like 15gigs of info.. and it scaned it in about 30min..

It scaned inside ziped and other compressed files, So I think it went quite well..
It even checked my huge GTA3.img file.. over a gig in size..

It reported the Keylogger in 3 places.. One was the link to the program, the program it self, and the ziped form of the program..
It even warns me when I open the sub-folder the link is in..

It's in a trainer for the game GTA SA.. So I know it's there, and I know why it's there..

Oh and since this is about Norton, I started my own thread about BitDefender... Please continue there.

[hewee]

Thanks and I see the other thread on BitDefender 9 so we can keep talking about it here.

http://forums.techguy.org/reviews/44...t-program.html

[Maestro99]

The Seahawks lost...I'm sad ...the ref calls the Seahawk touchdown - pass interference....

Winter Olympics Turin 2006......I hope Canada's hockey team wins the gold metal ...and I hope the gold metal game USA vs Canada. A rivalry....

Originally Posted by Super-D-38

I forgot how many files.. Well over 10,000.. I think it was like 40,000+....
Something like 15gigs of info.. and it scaned it in about 30min..

Originally Posted by Maestro99

For example, a full scan can mean different things to different antivirus applications. Therefore, in the future, both should conduct a customize scan (checking the C drive, and everything in and between it) and report their findings with the # of files scanned. I'll bet you, one antivirus will say 10,000 files, and the other 8,900 files.

I used 10,000 as an example....

I'll post the scan results in the BitDefender thread.

[Jay_JWLH]

The only good thing about norton is that their 2006 suite seems to have got a good review in one of my computer magazines. Hopefully they completely revamped it and its actually good this time, or its updated and besides the review its pretty much the same. I guess the only thing norton got right for me was the ad blocking. The review is below, and sorry about the quality.

[Lyte]

Originally Posted by blues_harp28

Hi..No fan of Symantec..any thoughts about this..
http://www.pc101.com/showthread.php?...hlight=brother

Hey Blue, I don't know if the photos were down when you look at the thread regarding the keystroke logger it but they're back up now.

Just an FYI...

Lyte

[Maestro99]

2006 Anti-Virus Software Report

http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

Gold BitDefender
Silver PC-cillin
Bronze AVG Anti-Virus

#4 McAfee VirusScan
#5 F-Secure Anti-Virus
#6 Norton AntiVirus
#7 F-Prot for Windows
#8 eTrust EZ Antivirus
#9 ESET Nod32
#10 Panda Anti-Virus
#11 AVAST! Pro

TopTenREVIEWS changed their ratings...........

Anti-Virus Software Reviews 2006

Listed in order of rating:

Gold: BitDefender
Silver: Kaspersky
Bronze: F-Secure Anti-Virus
#4: PC-cillin
#5: ESET Nod32
#6: McAfee VirusScan
#7: Norton AntiVirus
#8: AVG AntiVirus
#9: eTrust EZ Antivirus
#10: Norman Virus Control
#11: AntiVirusKit
#12: AVAST!
#13: Panda Titanium
#14: F-Prot
#15: PCTools AntiVirus
#16: ViRobot Expert
#17: WinAntiVirus
NA CyberScrub AntiVirus
NA The Shield AntiVirus

After trying Kaspersky, even I came to the same conclusion that it's a good antivirus product.

EDIT:

No point in starting a new reply, I'll just continue here....

Taking a closer look at TopTenREVIEWS ratings, I totally disagree with their commentary/analysis in regards to scanning time.

Scanning Time 80 GB HardDrive:

Gold: BitDefender Time: 20 Min
Silver: Kaspersky Time: 8 Min
Bronze: F-Secure Anti-Virus Time: 35 Min
#4: PC-cillin Time: 30 Min
#5: ESET Nod32 Time: 24 Min

There's no way Nod32 took 24 minutes to scan and BitDefender 20 minutes . Nod32 is way faster. Kaspersky 8 minutes . Nod32 is one of the fastest scanners out there! (Didn't try all antivirus software, but it's well noted among the antivirus community.) I just did a test.

TopTenREVIEWS probably made a mistake.....perhaps they will change it.....

Kaspersky documented in their help files (Frequently asked questions) regarding scanning times being somewhat long/slow. The more scans are conducted Kaspersky times start to get faster as stated in the help files because they skip files that have already been scanned (something to that effect). [Previous posts BD9, and I'll check the help files to see exactly what they say on scans.]

EDIT AGAIN:

Check this out......test conducted by PC World......(previously posted here in this thread)...

Apparently, the PC World comparison chart link I posted previously didn't work....the long way..
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,124475,00.asp
Check each of the boxes (Compare) and click Compare (at the bottom).

Scan speed (in seconds):

BitDefender 9 Standard Time: 556 sec
McAfee VirusScan 2006 Time: 242 sec
Kaspersky Lab Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal 5.0 Time: 420 sec
F-Secure Anti-Virus 2006 Time: 388 sec
Symantec Norton AntiVirus 2006 Time: 272 sec
Panda Software Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware Time: 106 sec
AntiVir Personal Edition Classic 6.32 Time: 265 sec
Alwil Software Avast Home Edition 4.6 Time: 791 sec
Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security Security 2006 Time: 134 sec
Grisoft AVG Free Edition 7.1 Time: 354 sec

If TopTenREVIEW has Kaspersky at 8 minutes and BitDefender at 20 minutes, then can somebody explain to me how PC World achieved in their test a difference of 136 sec = 2 minutes and 16 seconds!! 12 minutes difference on 80 GB Hard Drive vs 2 minutes and 16 seconds difference...... the spread does not look right - TopTenREVIEWS scan time for Kaspersky looks way too fast.

TopTenREVIEW - McAfee VirusScan time: 1 hour vs BitDefender time: 20 minutes (McAfee slower), yet PC World has McAfee faster at 242 seconds vs BitDefender's 556 seconds

Conclusion: There's no consistency in these tests.......

TopTenREVIEWS:

Gold BitDefender Time: 20 Min
Silver Kaspersky Time: 8 Min
Bronze F-Secure Anti-Virus Time: 35 Min
#4 PC-cillin Time: 30 Min
#5 ESET Nod32 Time: 24 Min
#6 McAfee VirusScan Time: 1 Hour
#7 Norton AntiVirus Time: 35 Min
#8 AVG AntiVirus Time: 24 Min
#9 eTrust EZ Antivirus Time: 30 Min
#10 Norman Virus Control Time 35 Min

[Maestro99]

^

Kaspersky documented in their help files (Frequently asked questions) regarding scanning times being somewhat long/slow. The more scans are conducted Kaspersky times start to get faster as stated in the help files because they skip files that have already been scanned........

Posted in BD9....

Frequently asked questions:

Why does Kaspersky Anti-Virus cause a certain decrease in server performance, noticeably loading the CPU?

Other anti-virus products speed up scanning by excluding both viruses which are less easily detectable or less frequent in the geographic location of the anti-virus vendor, and file formats that require complicated analysis (e.g. PDF) from their databases.

Kaspersky Anti-Virus gives its users maximum protection. Experienced users can, of course, accelerate anti-virus scanning to the detriment of overall security by disabling scanning of various file types, but we do not recommend doing so for users who want the best protection. #25

http://forums.techguy.org/reviews/44...program-2.html

Also in Kaspersky's help files/guide.........

Key tasks performed using Kaspersky Anti-Virus > Frequently asked questions

Frequently Asked Questions:

Kaspersky Anti-Virus does not rescan files that have been scanned earlier. Why?

This is true. Kaspersky Anti-Virus does not rescan files that have not changed since the last.

That has become possible due to new iChecker and iStreams technologies. The technology is implemented in the program using a database of file checksums and file checksum storage in alternate NTFS streams.

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The purpose and major functions of Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal > What's new in version 5.0?

Maintaining scanned objects database. Version 5.0 does not scan previously analyzed objects that have not changed since the time they were last scanned. This applies both to real-time protection and to the on-demand scan. This feature greatly improves the application’s speed and performance.

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Preventing virus infections > Scan settings to be used

2. In Configure On-Demand Scan window that opens after you click the above link, select the desired scan level, which defines the thoroughness of your computer's anti-virus protection. The default level is Recommended. You can change it by moving the Scan level slider up or down. Below is a discussion of the available protection levels together with situations when the use of a certain protection level is indicated:

1. Maximum protection - thorough scan of the entire computer or a particular disk, folder or file.
We recommend that you use this protection level if you suspect that your computer has been infected with a virus. A detailed discussion of infection symptoms is provided in section Symptons of infection.

2. Recommended - a scan of the entire computer or a specified object using settings recommended by Kaspersky Lab. [NOTE: This is the default setting, and this is the setting I used plus the customize setting for all C:]

We recommend that you use this protection level by default as it ensures an optimal combination of scan speed and thoroughness.

3. High speed - high-speed anti-virus scan of your computer or of a selected object.
This protection level ensures scanning at maximum speed due to a reduction in the number of objects to be scanned.





8 minutes How many times did they perform a scan? What setting did they use - High Speed? # of files scanned? ............