[ferrija1]

iPods are popular because they're simple and cool looking.

[mclarenvj]

hmmm... my mate hates his, it has barely any battery. only lasts 2 hours

[RedHelix]

Originally Posted by DarqueMist

Then you need to open your eyes and start listening to more informed people. I can understand people dissin the iPod it does its job OK but is way over priced, over hyped and there are equally good alternatives out there for cheaper. THE ZUNE ISN'T ONE, it is also over priced and M$ has it so tightly bound to their version of DRM that the device can be a major pain to use

What are you talking about? I'm going on my second year with a Zune and that's never been a problem, whether I buy music online or rip from CD. I can even convert video to a compatible format with Windows Movie Maker. I recommended it to my boss when he was in the market for a new mp3 player, and he loves it way more than his old iPod.

Grievance: Most people who bash the Zune don't really have a legitimate reason for disliking it.

[ferrija1]

Zune's aren't bad, I'd say they're the second best MP3 player out there.

[avengeda7x]

Ipods are just awesome, have all your fav music and movies where ever you go.


got myself the new 160gig one to replace my 80gig, 240gig. now thats an mp4 player lol

[Yankee Rose]

Originally Posted by RedHelix

Grievance: Most people who bash the Zune don't really have a legitimate reason for disliking it.

That's what I say about iPods!

I figure - to each his own. Some folks prefer iPods, some prefer other MP3 players. As long as they do the job - that's all that matters in the end.

[DarqueMist]

Originally Posted by RedHelix

Grievance: Most people who bash the Zune don't really have a legitimate reason for disliking it.

My opinion is not uninformed, it has passable sound quality almost on par with an iPod. It has an ok appearance (which I couldn't care less about, I want to listen to it not look at it). The one advantage it really has over an iPod is its wifi ability but because of the way M$ has implemented its DRM use that is seriously hobbled. I was curious about the zune when it was introduced so like with any "major" purchase I make I researched it and read the reviews

...the Zune software can burn tracks to CD, but those with a monthly subscription will find that they have no burn rights unless they buy the files first. Again, it's understandable but annoying. It rules out both mix CDs that use subscription songs and listening to music from the stereo in my kitchen at home, which has a CD player but no inputs. For your fifteen bucks a month, you get to listen to music on one PC and one Zune. That's it.

...When a device promises "the social" but drastically limits file-sharing, can't swap video clips, and only works with identical devices, it's a tough sell in a world dominated by iPods. All Apple has to do is release a model with WiFi and Microsoft's major advantage is wiped out. And because that "advantage" isn't used well, the Zune will face an uphill path to broader market adoption.

all the legitimate reviews I read echoed those sentiments and emphasize the hobbling M$ has done with how they chose to use DRM. The zune may be a decent product mechanically but thats where it ends .. .the software side of the equation is important to

[DarqueMist]

Originally Posted by Yankee Rose

That's what I say about iPods!

I figure - to each his own. Some folks prefer iPods, some prefer other MP3 players. As long as they do the job - that's all that matters in the end.

I like my nano too but if I were in the market today I would be looking at sansa and creative products first, I might go back to Apple after researching but at least on the surface these companies seem to be putting out a decent product at a much more reasonable price.

[lexmarks567]

there all a waste of money. i like cd players and walkmans better. just take what cds or cassettes i like and thats it. oh and yes im the only person on the planet that still has 8-track tapes and im not from the 70'S

[B-Subs-Me]

I like my 1gb shuffle. It's small, and the battery last a long time because it dosen't have a screen. It's cheap, and does everything I need it to; plus, I like the iTunes software.

[gamerbyron]

Originally Posted by lexmarks567

there all a waste of money. i like cd players and walkmans better. just take what cds or cassettes i like and thats it. oh and yes im the only person on the planet that still has 8-track tapes and im not from the 70'S

Why not Mp3 players, they are easy to carry and also lighter than cd players.

[new tech guy]

I have the 80g ipod. And out of the creative hd player i had previously, this thing has taken quite a bit of abuse and apart from ocassional file corruption, probably from accidental spills, getting rattled around while running the drive...etc it runs fine. I never had an mp3 player that can take so much abuse and keep on chugging. Also what i like is that because they are so popular, support and service is not hard to get and ontop of that, apple support is very good. Fine, quality is medioker and it may be overpriced, but the popularity factor makes it very practical.

[DarqueMist]

Originally Posted by new tech guy

I have the 80g ipod.... this thing has taken quite a bit of abuse and apart from ocassional file corruption, probably from accidental spills, getting rattled around while running the drive...etc it runs fine...

If you're are a person that always has your MP3 player in your pocket (like me) and find it corrupting files from getting jostled around may I suggest a flash based player as opposed to a hard drive one. My Nano has put up with a lot of jostling and never has a file become corrupt (probably because there are no moving parts) nor have I had to put up with any skipping or lagging. I know they don't hold as many files but 4G is a lot of music, for me anyway it is more than enough to be carrying at any one time.

[new tech guy]

I might look into that. But as long as this works, i will keep using it. I was figuring as my previous mp3 was hd based and died a few times on me cause of drive failure. When it dies i may just do flash based here on out.

[RootbeaR]

Originally Posted by mclarenvj

hmmm... my mate hates his, it has barely any battery. only lasts 2 hours

Ditto.
My friend and ieach bought our girlfriends mp3 players for Christmas.
ibought the Creative Zen, he bought an ipod.

He just told me a couple of days ago he intends to sell the ipod cheap to a fellow employee and buy a creative.

My girlfriend has only used it on Linux though so ican't comment on how it works with XP.