[jonasdatum]

Originally Posted by madd74

The whole concept of a flash dying out is due to the fact that cells die after time of read/write.

Of course, your actual hard drives will die due to friction. They all are going to die sooner or later, like everyone, expect for me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_drive

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_fla...#Disadvantages

Not to get off topic, but I plan buying a HD enclosure instead of a standard internal HD. Since HD do eventually die, I can simply switch the drive. I've seen great deals on standalone extrernal drives, but the enclosure device is a much better investment.

All storage devices will die like all electronics currently developed due to wear and tear. Invest accordingly when buying a MP3 player.

You live longer than me, LOL yea right.

[gamerbyron]

Do you guys think Apple will come up with Ipod Green Power (Energy Saving)?

[ferrija1]

No, there's no real reason to.

[Saint Anger]

Originally Posted by jonasdatum

Not to get off topic, but I plan buying a HD enclosure instead of a standard internal HD. Since HD do eventually die, I can simply switch the drive. I've seen great deals on standalone extrernal drives, but the enclosure device is a much better investment.

I once bought an external drive. Inside the aluminum and plastic case was ... believe it or not ... a regular "internal" drive. And I could simply switch the drive out with other "internal" drives I had, as if I had bought a separate drive and enclosure. Better yet, I could remove the drive from the "standalone" enclosure, connect it to an available IDE/ATA cable inside my desktop, and WOW you wouldn't believe how much faster it was than when connected by USB. True story, I swear! lol

[ferrija1]

Originally Posted by jonasdatum

Not to get off topic, but I plan buying a HD enclosure instead of a standard internal HD. Since HD do eventually die, I can simply switch the drive. I've seen great deals on standalone extrernal drives, but the enclosure device is a much better investment.

Originally Posted by Saint Anger

I once bought an external drive. Inside the aluminum and plastic case was ... believe it or not ... a regular "internal" drive. And I could simply switch the drive out with other "internal" drives I had, as if I had bought a separate drive and enclosure. Better yet, I could remove the drive from the "standalone" enclosure, connect it to an available IDE/ATA cable inside my desktop, and WOW you wouldn't believe how much faster it was than when connected by USB. True story, I swear! lol

It doesn't matter if you buy a plain hard drive, HD enclosure, or external HD, you can replace the drive in all of them. I, however, would buy a plain hard drive seeing as it is the cheapest.

[jonasdatum]

Originally Posted by ferrija1

It doesn't matter if you buy a plain hard drive, HD enclosure, or external HD, you can replace the drive in all of them. I, however, would buy a plain hard drive seeing as it is the cheapest.

The idea behind getting an enclosure is the ability to grad you data on 'the quick.' Unless you ahve sncyronized files via online backup services or something. For example, lets say there is a fire. You're going to try to grap what you can even if the fire isn't even spread to your residence yet. For me I'd grab my wallet and some important papers (already seperated and cotained in folders) and only if I have time would I get dressed. Fortunately it is standard proceedure to leave the last thing I was wearing out until the next day. LOL gave me a great thread idea, thank you.

[ferrija1]

Originally Posted by jonasdatum

The idea behind getting an enclosure is the ability to grad you data on 'the quick.' Unless you ahve sncyronized files via online backup services or something. For example, lets say there is a fire. You're going to try to grap what you can even if the fire isn't even spread to your residence yet. For me I'd grab my wallet and some important papers (already seperated and cotained in folders) and only if I have time would I get dressed. Fortunately it is standard proceedure to leave the last thing I was wearing out until the next day. LOL gave me a great thread idea, thank you.

What if you're not at home? Many fires start when individuals aren't at their house and so if your only backup is sitting next to original files while your house is encased in a burning inferno of flames and heat, you've got a problem.

Off-site backup.

[jonasdatum]

Originally Posted by ferrija1

What if you're not at home? Many fires start when individuals aren't at their house and so if your only backup is sitting next to original files while your house is encased in a burning inferno of flames and heat, you've got a problem.

Off-site backup.

Yes good point. That is why using high yield flash, tape, and CD/DVDs works. Failing that there other alturnatives. Like online off-site backup.

Xdrive.com

www.freedrive.com

Microsoft's Sky Drive,

http://www.ibackup.com/online-backup...ess_060206.htm

Microsoft Sky Drive is limited in that you can only upload files 25MB or less. The obvious work around is a program that can split a file into pieces and put it back togoether again. I haven't used such an application in years but I am sure you can find them online for free or cost.

Xdrive is now a part of AOL so if you have one of their services you get 5gigs for free.

ibackup.com I haven't used yet.

Freedrive I haven't used it, they claim to give you a 1gig for free. So I guess you have to pay for more.

[ferrija1]

Online is always good, because they typically have multiple copies of the data (in different places) which saves you a lot of hassle, maintaining 2+ backups in different places.

[new tech guy]

I found the trick with offsite backup is to have it maintain itself essentially. If you can find a way to automate the task do it. This way its one less thing one has to worry about. For instance, locally i keep backups on a NAS which has data written by automatic batch scripts which are tested and i personally ensure each is reliable by testing it. Then i have idrive perform offsite backup and all is set to automatically do it. Nothing to worry here.

[jonasdatum]

Originally Posted by new tech guy

I found the trick with offsite backup is to have it maintain itself essentially. If you can find a way to automate the task do it. This way its one less thing one has to worry about. For instance, locally i keep backups on a NAS which has data written by automatic batch scripts which are tested and i personally ensure each is reliable by testing it. Then i have idrive perform offsite backup and all is set to automatically do it. Nothing to worry here.

I have to many intricate files to do a general scheduled backup. Also my files are only backuped when I make change to them. I have thought about making it more streamlined, but I like how my x redundant backup scheme works.

Xdrive lets you schedule backups, skydrive does not.

[madd74]

Originally Posted by jonasdatum

Not to get off topic, but I plan buying a HD enclosure instead of a standard internal HD. Since HD do eventually die, I can simply switch the drive. I've seen great deals on standalone extrernal drives, but the enclosure device is a much better investment.

All storage devices will die like all electronics currently developed due to wear and tear. Invest accordingly when buying a MP3 player.

You live longer than me, LOL yea right.

Well, the point is, as noted from the sources, that the flash only have the certain write cycles to them. Yeah, any electronic can die at any time, I work in a business that follows that to an understanding that the customers do not follow... because they think since they had their electronic device for 99 years that should should then be no problem with it.

My comment was not about what to invest into as much as attempting to answer a question about some of the technology in use. Of course, maybe it was something else, I really do not remember that was some time ago

Eh, I do not want to live long. I feel old enough as it is :greenmr:

[sukhjits11]

Hey i am agree with u.I like u r reasons.I m also using my IPOD in the same way.itunes falls short but ipod is very important piece of technology.
it is comfort in pockets.thanks for u r forum.your post is very interesting to read.
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[gamerbyron]

lol, no problem