[witkamp]

Isn't this supposed to be a site to support and help each other out when it comes to PC hardware/software related problems? Why is it then that questions regarding malfunctioning P2P software are not allowed with the argument of the site moderators that they won't support illegal use of copyrighted material?
Whose payroll are you on? Why take a position in a matter relating business/legal ethics& matters while you are supposed to provide support and maintain a platform to help solving software/hardware related problems?
Like going to my Saab dealer with a punctured tire who's telling me : Sir, I would be very willing to help you out and I appreciate and understand your need but it's against my business ethics to change a tire that is obviously not purchased through the official channels.
You moderator guys are seriously mixing up things.

As for your freedom to make this a 'global' verdict of illegality of P2P software platforms, I hope you are aware that in Europe it isn't illegal but (incremental VAT on clean Cd's etc) measures have been taken to compensate copyright owners for their loss of revenues. A method of repatriating funds back to the record companies that helps much more to regain a balanced situation then shutting people of from software support resources.

Wish you all the best with your morals but I'm out.

[dvk01]

The Board owner has made a decision that we do not support P2P

all users of this board abide by HIS decisions
If you don't like it then I'm afraid you will need to find elsewhere

[witkamp]

sorry to say but you don't get the point.

[smeegle]

You said P2P is legal in Europe. Take a look at this: http://www.pcw.co.uk/news/1153958

[AcaCandy]

I think it is YOU who doesn't get the point

Like you said, you're out. So be it. Don't let the door hit you, you know where

Open up your own forum, pay the overhead, etc. and YOU can make the rules

[angelize56]

Sheesh! Mike makes the rules...this is HIS site and anyone using TSG should RESPECT the site owner's rules....if one can't abide by the rules....there are plenty of sites out there who don't mind putting their arses on the chopping block...I'd suggest finding one!

[dvk01]

Originally Posted by witkamp

sorry to say but you don't get the point.

Oh I get the point

It's immaterial whether it's legal or not

The board owner can make whatever rules he wants and can decide what can andcan't be discussed on HIS board where he pays for all the upl=keep & bandwith etc

If he doesn't want P2P or any other topic discussed or supported then taht is his choice and we all abide by his decision

[jd_957]

I believe the site owner is trying to comply with US Law.

What the Law Says:
The distribution of copyrighted materials over the Internet for which the distributor (any server - including your computer) does not have permission can be a violation of federal criminal law, a law called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA). Most of the music, games or videos downloaded through file-sharing programs like Morpheus or KaZaA lack permission of the copyright owner. And, those very programs that you use to download material, automatically open file-sharing services from your computer. So, without your knowing it explicitly, by downloading the program and the files your computer is programmed to share files back out into the international Internet community. You are therefore liable to be in violation of the DMCA, even if all you did was download a single song. Each criminal offense carries with it a minimum fine of $30,000 and a potential jail sentence.

And the above can be found here.

http://www.arizona.edu/home/p2p-programs.shtml

[witkamp]

To finalize this: Smeegle, does the article say that people have been on trial, or have been convicted?
no, nothing of the sort - guess why?

[AcaCandy]

Hasn't been enough time yet.

They said the same thing about DirecTV pirates Do some research on that one.

[witkamp]

Originally Posted by angelize56

Sheesh! Mike makes the rules...this is HIS site and anyone using TSG should RESPECT the site owner's rules....if one can't abide by the rules....there are plenty of sites out there who don't mind putting their arses on the chopping block...I'd suggest finding one!

pathetic

[AcaCandy]

I'm going to close this thread as it's going to turn into a flaming war.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tech+forums

There's a good start for you to find another place to post.

Any other complaints, take it up with TechGuy I'm sure you'll have a sympathetic ear there.

[AcaCandy]

I just stumbled across this and found it quite fitting

In January, a judge in Breda, Netherlands, officially ruled that a 46-year-old bank robber, who stole money worth the equivalent of US$8,400, could only be charged with a crime worth about US$6,100 because the court had to let the man offset the equivalent of US$2,300 that he paid for his gun, as a legitimate business expense. [Associated Press, 1-27-05] [Daily Telegraph (London), 1-26-05]