[Steve-x8086]

Hi Mike. Thumbs down on the site's new software. Specifically, I just wrote a new thread here with my comments. It took a good bit of time and a lot of thought. I reviewed it and clicked Submit New Thread. What I got was a strange page.

Apparently I had forgotten to enter a Subject in the space. Instead of asking me to enter a Subject, I was told to use my backspace and "try again"!!! How rude.

The end result is that this site's software dumped my Entire Thread and there was no way to recover it. awejkfsefawehf'acesf'ia. Need I say anything more?

Once again, this shows how poorly software is designed. However, they seem to get the ads in good.

Steve,x8086

[TechGuy]

I agree that they should save the thread and ask for the subject, just in case your browser dumps it. But, let me clarify the use of the term "new" here... You're referring to the current software we're running (vB 1.1.5) which we've been running for a few months now. Soon (hopefully this month) we'll be upgrading to what is being referred to in a lot of these threads as the "new" software (vB 2). You can try it out at http://forums2.techguy.org/ while I try to get all of the bugs out. But, I assure you that this new software will do exactly what you want. I just tried it myself.

[Bryan]

I just tried that with the current version(VB 1.1.5) and it seems to work fine. I tried it 5 times in different forums just to be sure. I pressed the back button and didn't lose anything. Maybe some others can try it and see what happens when they do. And since it could easily be a problem related to the browser version/back button function and not the BB software, I'm running IE 5.01 SP2. I guess we'll see if anyone else has the same problem occur if they attempt to post without a subject.

[Edited by Bryan on 07-15-2001 at 10:05 AM]

[TechGuy]

Yes, the ability to use the back button with web forms and keep the information is dependant a lot on the browser and settings. If you have your cache set very low or any number of other things don't go quite right, the browser will refresh the form and out goes your message. The nice thing about vB 2 is that it checks for a subject BEFORE you leave the page (using JavaScript). That way, the browser never has a chance to lose it.

[Bryan]

That's the way the prior version should have done it. I'm not sure why any programmer would edit the entries on a page and not redisplay the page in error.

[brianF]

I get that error all the time using netscape, and my cache is set for 40meg.
Never had the error with IE 5.5 yet.
But I prefer netscape so I have become very adept at copying my messages before
I hit the submit button

I have noticed when it happens the user name isn't loaded after hitting the reply button, even refreshing will not get it to display

[oscar51]

See http://forums2.techguy.org/showthrea...id=121#post121

[Steve-x8086]

Thanks for all the responses. Yep Mike, you're right about which version is which. I just want to clarify what I ment about the backspace. I ment the Back function in the browser to return to the previous page. I'm sure that you figured it out though.

Bryan, are you telling me that some Browsers remember the text that was typed in by "me" in a previous site page even though the site didn't keep it?

Still, if a blank wasn't filled in, the software should ask for it to be filled in without deleting the information that was entered and making it be written again. If I interpert you correctly Mike, the Soon To Be version will do it right.

Thanks, Steve-x8086

[Bryan]

Well it's not really some browsers, it's more like all browsers. At least in the senario your describing. What you typed in, is in a page in your cache and on your PC after you've pressed the submit button. The browser "Back Arrow" function simply looks to the cache on your PC and takes you back to the previous page which should have had what you typed into it. Anyway, there are documented problems with the "Back Arrow" function and which page it takes you back to and how it takes you back in some earlier versions of Internet Explorer. It doesn't always function the way it should.

On the last point, "the software" isn't deleting anything you type. The browser "Back Arrow" function didn't work correctly on your browser and still won't work correctly on the new BB software. The new version of the BB software simply won't advance you to a different new page to tell you it's incorrect thereby relying on the function of your browsers "Back Arrow" button to get you back to the page. It will inform you of the error on the same page that you had the error occur. In that senario, the browser "Back Arrow" function is avoided.

It does get confusing but hopefully that explains it clearly enough.

[Edited by Bryan on 07-16-2001 at 11:44 AM]

[bd]

Thanks,

Bob

[Steve-x8086]

Thanks Bryan and Mike.

Steve-x8086