[TechGuy]

NOTE: This post was split from http://forums.techguy.org/site-comme...-tsg-down.html

Yup, that's probably what they meant. I haven't seen anything that bad, but it does get tiring to see over and over. Even so, you'll always have people who are more sensitive to that sort of thing than others.

Back to the suggestion of breaking up the site -- the idea has come up a number of times in the past. I think no one likes the Random/CivDeb forums less than the Moderators. It's a nightmare to try to Moderate. No one wants to play by the rules, and when they're caught, they get upset and feel that they're being treated unfairly. On the other hand, I think a lot of people end up getting trapped in Random after coming here for a tech forum. If they were seperated, I'm not sure that would happen, but I guess we could still link to the other site. It would be a lot more maintenance to run two seperate sites. We could certainly use the same servers, although I might like to seperate the front-end a bit so troubles at one wouldn't necessarily spell slow-downs at the other. But, the real problem I'm thinking of now -- how connected would the two sites be? I think it would take some work to connect them enough so that your username/password would work at both places, but that the threads, search, etc are all on the other. Someone might have already written a hack to do that; I'll have to check.

Anyway, the idea of splitting the site is definately something I'm willing to consider. In fact, I bought randomdiscussion.com a few years ago with that idea.

[MMJ]

I once said that disabling the post count in such forums would help out alot.

Personally though one way or the other I would like to see those forums gone.

[Deke40]

Originally Posted by MMJ

I once said that disabling the post count in such forums would help out alot.

Personally though one way or the other I would like to see those forums gone.

You seem to have some strong opinions on this subject for somebody that just started playing in this sandbox.

I have found the best policy for me is too lurk in CivDeb most of the time as I don't have a real thick skin and there are some pretty nasty things thrown around in there. In the old days, before the advent of the internet, you would take it outside, but in the cyber world it is hard to win some of these verbal battles.

Once you have been here a few years you will think you are living a true life version of the new tv show "Day Break", as these battles have been fought over and over with nobody really winning, and then all the huggy--kissy stuff comes along and then you begin another day.

[MMJ]

You seem to have some strong opinions on this subject for somebody that just started playing in this sandbox.

Your point?

[Deke40]

Originally Posted by MMJ

Your point?

I think my statement speaks for itself.

[MMJ]

Anyways I have been here longer than that. Take a look at my sig.

[JohnWill]

I'm all for the "discussion" forums being split off to their own place. It seems that it really does drag down the reputation of TSG, I was somewhat surprised that so many people had a negative opinion of the board, mostly based on what happens in those forums.

[brendandonhu]

How about just making CivDeb hidden by default, and make it visible to anyone that requests it? I would leave Random public and just move the less friendly threads out of it.

[JohnWill]

All we need is someone willing to read all the junk that goes on there and moderate it.

[Deke40]

Originally Posted by JohnWill

All we need is someone willing to read all the junk that goes on there and moderate it.

I know the perfect candidate. (Not referring to you)

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by JohnWill

All we need is someone willing to read all the junk that goes on there and moderate it.

Ain't that what you're getting paid for...???

Joke, joke... just a joke... lower that gun please...

[JohnWill]

Too late, the sniper cat is loose and out of contact with home base. You're dead meat!

[ferrija1]

Guys, TechGuy created this because the other one got Hijacked......

I agree, moderating those forums must be a mess. So what we have to do is:

• Decide if we want the other forums at a new domain or hidden here.
• Decide what forums to move (you won't want to move Announcements and maybe not Games).
• Plan how it is going to be set-up (design the new site, find a modification to hide Random...)
• Execute the plan.

For setting-up, you will need to decide if the users accounts are linked: the post count, et cetera are the same, or if they are separate: they just have the user name and password. I thought there was some accounts data-base in vBulletin...

[computer_nut]

aha...The owner of randomdiscussion.com is offering it for sale for an asking price of 5,000 $US! ...any takers yet?

[computer_nut]

For having accounts work accross both forums you could make something like a TSG Passport system (or for my web network when I eventually get the funds to fund it I've always liked the idea of synchronizing accounts accross my network via yam.mainsite.com..yam standing for Your Account Manager where it'd be a central UserCP of sorts where users could manage their settings for all the sites they've logged into with their passport account in one central location, for this site it could be something like yam.tsgpassport.com, tsgpassport.com being the location for describing what a tsgpassport is and where new members would signup)...just have it when users login successfully, make the cookie for the forum they've logged into...I'm sure that's not too hard, just copy the algorithim for making the cookie from login.php or wherever that's done and change the login url to a place like yam.tsgpassport.com/login.php?siteid=1(or 2, 1 for tsg, 2 for random discussion) and the register link to yam.tsgpassport.com/register.php?siteid=1 (that page would have a place for people with a passport to login and then it'd proceed to simply get the person to enter any optional settings such as their timezone for that forum, click proceed and they'd now have their passport setup with that forum...just have a db that contains which ids are registered at which forums for that and you could use the current member db for the main passport deal) and of course below the option for people with an existing passport would be the place for people to register a new passport (perhaps when you're first at register.php it offers two radio buttons, one for people with an existing passport account and one for those who don't have a passport account and it goes from there...(there should be below each option in smaller font a small description of each option, mainly I can think for the I don't have a passport option having it detail that passports are used to allow for one single account accross all the sites and a link to the main tsgpassport.com site for more details (opens in a new window?)))