[dalesellers]

Sometimes when I view our site on the web, the ends of the top and bottom borders on the far right are cut off. There is just a white space between the border and the edge of the viewing screen. It only seems to do it every now and then (seems to have a mind of it's own). Seems life minimizing screen or clicking through a couple pages makes it happen sometimes. Anyone ever see this before or better yet, know how to fix it?

Thanks

[AbvAvgUser]

Please post the link of your site here so that everyone here who can help can have a look at it.

[dalesellers]

Sorry about that - here you go:

http://www.holisticempowerment.org

[AbvAvgUser]

Just saved the page on my Hard Disk. I will have a look at the source and will come back in a day or two.

[dalesellers]

Great, thanks!!

[AbvAvgUser]

The page loads properly in IE6 but a small white strip comes on the right hand side in Netscape 7. What browser did you use for testing?

I have not seen this in proper details yet, but in your tables you have mixed percentage as well as fixed pixel widths. Check if this is creating problems.

[dalesellers]

abvavguser -

I have been testing it on IE. The strip is the space that I have been talking about. It seems to do it in IE also, but only after I click to a new page (not when it first loads up).

When you mentioned that I have mixed percentage as well as fixed pixel widths, were you refering to the borders of the page body borders? Also, how would you recommend that I change them in order to see if this is what is causing problems?

Thanks,

[AbvAvgUser]

Please bear with me for a few days. I am going out of town and shall get on to your problem as soon as I return. I am sorry.

In the mean time, just check the widths that you have specified for all the columns of the tables, table width itself and the widths of the images. It seems that you have specifed some things in pixels and others in percentage. Is that the cause? Image widths is okay.

Secondly, have you directly typed all the HTML or used an Editor like Frontpage or something similar?

[dalesellers]

abvavguser,

No rush - I'm considering myself lucky to be getting any help. I've been playing around with the borders and tables. I have put all the columns at "no specified width." Nothing that I've tried so far seems to work.

We put the site together on FP 2002 (very little HTML entry) and I have been viewing it IE. .

Ironically, the issue seems to be margin related. I right clicked on the page and went into page properties. Whenever I make a new page, I always go in there and click on the margin tab. In the margin tab box, there are settings to specify the top and left margins, but there is no choice for bottom or left margins.

Before, when I haven’t clicked on the specify margin boxes and entered 0, it leaves a space on the left and top margins, just like the spaces that are now on the bottom and right margins.

I’m curious if the issue is related to this. Someone on a post a while back actually told me to enter into the HTML “all margins at 0,” but didn’t elaborate past that. I think maybe that’s what they were talking about. Any idea on where I might enter that in, or do you think I’m off track?

Thanks,

[AbvAvgUser]

Okay. FrontPage and all other WYSIWYG HTML editors put in a lot of extra tags and things which at times creates unforseen problems like this.

Yesterday, I opened your page in IE and it showed me that white margin at right. Some days back it only showed it in Netscape Today again I opened it in IE and it looks fine!! In NS it is still showing it.

I am no expert at HTML but I think I will have to take a closer look at the tags before the body tag starts. In the mean time, try removing whatever is useless in that part and see. I don't have Frontpage so I can't try margins and things. But will surely look at it in the new year. I will be back in my town on 3rd.

Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[dalesellers]

abvavguser,

Great news! I think I got it all fixed up - persistence pays! Thanks for you support and helpful hints.

It was the page margins, not the borders that were causing the issue. Seems to be a FrontPage 2002 bug. It only asks you and inserts the right and top margin information. The HTML right after the head tags comes out like this:

<body topmargin="0" leftmargin="0">

I went into wordpad, edited the HTML and inserted it into FP like this:

<body topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0" bottommargin="0">

I didn't really know what I was doing, but it seems to work great. I edited the whole site (hours) but it all seems to be working fine now.

Thanks,
Happy Holidays,

[AbvAvgUser]

Thats really great news!! Now thats really a "Merry Christmas"!!

I could not read some part of your last post. May be you had put in some HTML tags there which were interpreted as tags here and not as text.

[dalesellers]

Oh, let's try it this way -

This is how it was before I edited it:

body topmargin="0" leftmargin="0"

This is how it was after I went into wordpad and edited it and then inserted the HTML:

body topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0" bottommargin="0"


Thanks again,

[AbvAvgUser]

Okay, now I can see it. These WYSIWIG HTML editors are sometimes really irritating. If you know HTML, then there is a good HTML editor. Its called 1st Page 2000. Its a freeware and really very good. It also contains loads of ready Javascripts. Give it a try.

[dalesellers]

I'll check it out,

thanks