[flavallee]

If you haven't run a scan with Windows updates for awhile, do so. Two new critical updates are available - 888113 and 891711.

[Cheeseball81]

Thanks Frank!
I will have to do that today.

[golferbob]

downloaded them tuesday ,now i notice update 891711 is showing up on the start up menu.

[flavallee]

GolferBob:

You're right. I noticed that too. I went ahead and unchecked it.

[Cheeseball81]

I have noticed that too.

I have Kb891711 running in the background and it's checked in msconfig.

Is it OK to uncheck that?

[golferbob]

i haven't unchecked mine yet. i was to dumb to read what the updates were for. i will do some checking to find more info out.

[Cheeseball81]

I was apprehensive as well since it's security related.

I'm gonna keep it checked for now.

[axis77]

im assuming that it is needed in win98, I kind of freeked out to, when I seen it in start up, so I deleted it, what Im bugged about is its not on the website stating a potential threat. I guess cause its win98. I'll just reinstall it because it was a security threat so maybe being that its running as a service it should probably be scanning at the same time.

[Cheeseball81]

Yeah it worried me too when I first saw it.

It actually has it's own folder in Windows\System.

I've just left it alone in case it's something that Win98 needs.

[Tunial]

I noticed Kb891711 running in my Task List too. Looks very odd to find something like that there. And I think it's using more than a minimal amount of resources. Does anyone know a real live Microsoft person to ask whether this is normal behavior for that Windows98SE critical fix released just a few days ago? I'll also leave it checked but it would have been helpful if Microsoft had mentioned this end result in the
KB891711 info unless I missed seeing it. ---Tunial

[Cheeseball81]

I've left it alone at the moment. My system has been running fine.

I sent an e-mail to Microsoft about it. Hope to hear back from them soon.

[TOGG]

I also read the relevant Bulletin very carefully and, insofar as any of them are intelligible, didn't find any mention of why a patch or update has to run as a separate application. An 'official ' (and understandable) explanation from MS is required.

I did notice that this patch replaces one issued in 2003 for users of 2K and XP, but not for '98/ME. The original version of MS05-2 was issued in January still, apparently, without a patch for 98/ME, until the current one was added this week.

My theory, (based on total ignorance of the facts-I do some of my best work that way!) is either that MS have realised their error in not patching earlier OS's, or, that a variation of the original exploit has surfaced making it necessary to patch the older OS's. The original patch could not easily be adapted to integrate with 98/ME (too difficult/expensive - NTFS/FAT32?), so we have a mini application instead.

It will be interesting to see how wrong I am when/if an explanation is provided.

[hewee]

Yes I got two updates for 98.
I got these...
Security Update for Windows 98 (KB888113)
Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)

One of them said it was to replace a Critical Update that I already had. Yea patches for patches and pass Critical Updates full of holes.
Plus there is a new KB891711.exe that runs at reboot or startup now. KB891711 was the update name too.

Windows Update – KB891711.exe

KB891711.EXE is part of Windows Update. If automatic update is enabled on your system, then KB891711.EXE will be downloaded automatically.

So it is ok. I don't think I would of known about it if it was not for good old WinPatrol telling me.



angelize56 said did a scan with spybot and it came up with KB891711 and she let spbot fix it but other said a spybot scan did not anything. So don't have spybot fix th update for KB891711.

[flavallee]

I've unchecked it in the MSCONFIG "Startup" tab in both of my 98SE computers and BELARC ADVISOR still validates it.

[Stoner]

I see there's quite some discussion of Kb891711.
I went in for the update also, as I use 98se.
I had problems.
My intention was to do the updates and make a new drive image for backup.
I saw 891711 being run and killed the process......blue screened . I was able to 'back out', but had to use ctl-alt-del to reboot.
After a few reboots, the computer worked 'normal', except if I again killed the process...Kb891711.exe.
So I decided to image it anyway.
I tried to defrag, but came back with disk errors and a 'request' to run scanreg.
I ran scanreg(normal) and came back with more than 30 various file errors, crosslinks, situations relating to adaware , FireFox, and things I didn't recognise.
I had run scanreg 3 days before with no problems, so I doubt this problem was there before the update.

I then re imaged from a month ago, so I'm OK now.
But I think I'll wait a while before I update again