[Braydenmartindal]

I suppose but solar isnt much better imagine all the chemicals and fumes put into the air from the production but Hydrogen is better than what we use now isnt it ? So Im not complaining :P Take alot of energy to produce normal fuels aswell and then its still bad for the enviroment because the cars will give off its fumes aswell but maybe to produce hydrogen its bad for the enviroment (unless they use clean ways to produce it ) but its giving off 0% emmisons form the car itself which makes up for the fact that it takes alot of energy In my opinion

[Elvandil]

It's a balancing act. Some types of pollution are worse than others, for sure. But all methods of making energy cause damage in some way.

[the Banker]

Scary to think what the water prices are going to be..

[MikeSwim07]

That is another thing I don't get,

Why people waste money on bottled water. Tab water can't be that bad for you. People have been drinking that water for thousands of years.

[Elvandil]

Maybe, but only the rich and educated could afford to have running water in ancient Rome and the lead in the pipes may have killed them off, leaving the poor and the stupid to run things. So, I don't think time alone is a valid justification of tap water.

But analyses show that tap water in many places is excellent, and New York has some of the best in the world. Bottled water, on the other hand, is often just tap water put into bottles at the factory. When it does come from springs, it can have bacterial contamination or even benzene in the case of Perrier (or was it a different, expensive, Fench water?).

[MikeSwim07]

The problem I have with it is all that wasted plastic. Idiots these days can't even use the recycle bin.

[win2kpro]

There is a lot of difference in a hydrogen fuel cell, and a hydrogen generator.

While it is true that there are a lot of "scams" regarding hydrogen generators there is a lot of serious developement being done now on this technology. The technology is fairly simple and has been around for quite sometime. It is commonly referred to as Brown's gas (HHO) and building a hydrogen generator is relatively inexpensive (about $150-$200).

While there are quite a few "scams", there are units in use today that do work. HHO is used as a "hybrid" application with gasoline. I've been following the developement of this technology for the past 2 or 3 years and it may very well fill in a gap that will increase the mileage per gallon of gasoline used.

Some people who have built their HHO generators report an increase in mileage per gallon of gasoline used from 8-35%. I personally only know of one person who has built a HHO "bubbler" and installed it on a Ford 150 truck, but he has increased his mileage per gallon of gasoline used about 20%.

You can go to Youtube and type in HHO and see lots of videos (both "scams" and true)
videos of HHO units in use.

Although this site is not selling anything, the owner has probably done more R&D with HHO than anyone else that posts videos at Youtube. He has some interesting videos if you are interested in learning more about HHO.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_video...ZeroFossilFuel

[Elvandil]

The fact remains that so-called "Brown's Gas" (which is really just a mixture of hydrogen gas and oxygen gas) is still produced by an energy-intensive electrolysis process. And the extreme explosive potential of such a mixture leads to the need for absorption into porous materials for transport, like dynamite. Producing the gas in an automobile requires electricity, and that is made from burning fuel.

[JohnWill]

Doesn't sound like an environment friendly option to me.

Production

A pure stoichiometric mixture is most easily obtained by water electrolysis, which uses an electric current to dissociate the water molecules:

electrolysis: 2 H2O → 2 H2 + O2
combustion: 2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O

The energy required to generate the oxyhydrogen always exceeds the energy released by combusting it.

[TTowner]

I doubt the entire video. How can it just run on water with no external energy? And why does it so look like the Indian Reva?

[JohnWill]

Quite frankly, I'm 100% sure it's a fake. There is no way it runs strictly on water with no other power source, it's really that simple.

[MikeSwim07]

Busted!

[JohnWill]

Originally Posted by MikeSwim07

Busted!

Afraid so.

[Elvandil]

Of course it is a fake. But things like this are also dangerous--fueling conspiracy theorists and making people invest money in this sort of ridiculous scheme.

If only we could watch this process from start to finish. What was happening in that place in the middle of the night?

[BoDySNaTcHeRz]

We all just need to go back to riding horse and carriage